Y avaira and NOT biofinity

rfriel · #1 (**permalink**) 01-27-2010, 03:49 PM

Biofinity is like Avaira but better, so why avaira, ok maybe modulus is less, but that's got to be the ONLY advantage, every other spec biofinity wins??

Jurassicmark · #2 (**permalink**) 01-27-2010, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rfriel

biofinity is like avaira but better, so why avaira, ok maybe modulus is less, but that's got to be the ONLY advantage, every other spec biofinity wins??

Hi rfriel,

What is "modulus" and can you tell me more about the "specs" in which Biofinity wins? Everybody is different. Just because Biofinity has a higher water content, for example, it doesn't mean it's better because some people may prefer a lower water content.

If it sharpens vision better for everyone who wears them, then yes, I'd say Biofinity wins.

rfriel · #3 (**permalink**) 01-27-2010, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jurassicmark

Hi rfriel,

What is "modulus" and can you tell me more about the "specs" in which Biofinity wins? Everybody is different. Just because Biofinity has a higher water content, for example, it doesn't mean it's better because some people may prefer a lower water content.

If it sharpens vision better for everyone who wears them, then yes, I'd say Biofinity wins.

H2O, 46%, enfilcon A material, modulus is stiffness or rigidity, lower better, but Dk/t, is much higher and better for biofinity. if you can wear biofinity, then i'd do that, but avaira is ok, just not as good. that's all.

completed specs and comparisons to other lens can be googled, most research comparing lens are done with biofinity, not avaira.

lurker2010 · #4 (**permalink**) 02-09-2010, 08:45 AM

You're saying Biofnity is a better lens. Avaira is priced for 2 week replacement. Some people do better with more frequent replacement. It's possible some patients may try and get a month out of an Avaria lens and save money.

Biofinity is a better lens and is more expensive Makes sense to me. A lot more honest then companies that market the exact same lens with different replacement recommendations at different prices.

Ragnarox · #5 (**permalink**) 02-09-2010, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by rfriel

H2O, 46%, enfilcon A material, modulus is stiffness or rigidity, lower better . . .

So a lower modulus means that the lens is more "floppy" and softer? Most soft things are comfortable, aren't they, so softer is better, right?

rfriel · #6 (**permalink**) 02-09-2010, 11:58 AM

modulus = stress/strain, i dont know about floppiness or softness, yes, lower modulus is better, google it and be amazed.......

Privateyez · #7 (**permalink**) 02-09-2010, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rfriel

modulus = stress/strain, i dont know about floppiness or softness, yes, lower modulus is better, google it and be amazed.......

According to Google "modulus" seems to be primarily a mathematical term.

According to your definition, a contact lens with a low modulus has low stress or strain? I don't get it. Why do people need to use words like "modulus" anyway? Normal people don't use words like that. It's not like contact lenses are rocket science. Teenagers use them. You don't hear people say "Gee, it's such a beautiful day. I'm having such a low modulus right now, I can sit here all day. How's your modulus, Suzie?"

rfriel · #8 (**permalink**) 02-09-2010, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Privateyez

According to Google "modulus" seems to be primarily a mathematical term.

According to your definition, a contact lens with a low modulus has low stress or strain? I don't get it. Why do people need to use words like "modulus" anyway? Normal people don't use words like that. It's not like contact lenses are rocket science. Teenagers use them. You don't hear people say "Gee, it's such a beautiful day. I'm having such a low modulus right now, I can sit here all day. How's your modulus, Suzie?"

if you dont want to use the terminology, dont use it, if you want to understand OD terminlogy, and the clinical lit, you'll need to use their terminology, if you dont care, then dont, no one is forcing you.

Privateyez · #9 (**permalink**) 02-09-2010, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by rfriel

if you dont want to use the terminology, dont use it, if you want to understand OD terminlogy, and the clinical lit, you'll need to use their terminology, if you dont care, then dont, no one is forcing you.

I'm not saying that anyone is forcing me to use medical jargon. I just think that this is a public forum where regular people come for answers to their questions about sunglasses and contact lenses and such. Those who answer the questions should be aware of the "lingo" they use and make sure it's accessible. This site is called "Lens 101" after all, implying entry-level information. It's not called "The Ophthalmological Maintenance Journal" or something. I'm just looking out for Joe and Jane Average.

Ragnarox · #10 (**permalink**) 03-02-2010, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by rfriel

if you dont want to use the terminology, dont use it, if you want to understand OD terminlogy, and the clinical lit, you'll need to use their terminology, if you dont care, then dont, no one is forcing you.

I agree with Privateyez. I always thought Lens 101 was a website where regular people can come and get help with their questions about glasses, contact lenses and sunglasses. They come here and find words like "modulus" and "neovascularization" and maybe decide to try another website that's easier to understand. We don't want to scare anybody off.
It's okay to use these terms, just keep in mind that most people won't know what they mean until you explain it. Maybe they don't want to understand "OD terminology" and "clinical lit." They just want to know why their contacts aren't comfortable. Let's keep things user-friendly, okay?

Help me out, fellow Lens 101 members. Are you comfortable with technical/medical terms you may not have heard before and aren't explained? Maybe I'm wrong and terms like "neovascularization" and "modulus" don't bother you at all. Sign in and let us know.

rfriel · #11 (**permalink**) 03-02-2010, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Privateyez

According to Google "modulus" seems to be primarily a mathematical term.

According to your definition, a contact lens with a low modulus has low stress or strain? I don't get it. Why do people need to use words like "modulus" anyway? Normal people don't use words like that. It's not like contact lenses are rocket science. Teenagers use them. You don't hear people say "Gee, it's such a beautiful day. I'm having such a low modulus right now, I can sit here all day. How's your modulus, Suzie?"

i'm having a very low modulus day, which means a great day.

thanks for asking?

Tonythetiger · #12 (**permalink**) 03-02-2010, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rfriel

i'm having a very low modulus day, which means a great day.

thanks for asking?

Hey, me too! Isn't it great?

Jurassicmark · #13 (**permalink**) 03-17-2010, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rfriel

if you dont want to use the terminology, dont use it, if you want to understand OD terminlogy, and the clinical lit, you'll need to use their terminology, if you dont care, then dont, no one is forcing you.

This isn't exactly "clinical lit," is it?

May your modulus be lower than a snake's belly today.

Privateyez · #14 (**permalink**) 03-25-2010, 08:57 AM

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This isn't exactly "clinical lit," is it?

May your modulus be lower than a snake's belly today.

Aww, look at the cute little garter snake.

rfriel · #15 (**permalink**) 03-25-2010, 09:42 AM

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Aww, look at the cute little garter snake.

this board is just weird and strange, but its interesting, keeps me coming back

my OD told me aviera was a surperior lens so that has to be right, i will swtich to aviera cause my OD told me so........ OD's are the GODS of contact lens world, their word is scripture......... LOL

Ragnarox · #16 (**permalink**) 04-09-2010, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rfriel

this board is just weird and strange, but its interesting, keeps me coming back

my OD told me Aviera was a superior lens so that has to be right, I will switch to Aviera cause my OD told me so........ OD's are the GODS of contact lens world, their word is scripture......... LOL

I sense some sarcasm here.

Are you saying that it's wrong to listen to your "OD" ("eye doctor" in plain English)? I'll tell you this. I'll listen to my eye doctor long before I'll listen to some stranger on a forum, that's for sure.

If you have a better idea, then let's hear it. Even though you're a stranger on a forum, I'm willing to hear you out. If eye doctors are not to be trusted, than who is?

Tonythetiger · #17 (**permalink**) 04-21-2010, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ragnarox

I sense some sarcasm here.

Are you saying that it's wrong to listen to your "OD" ("eye doctor" in plain English)? I'll tell you this. I'll listen to my eye doctor long before I'll listen to some stranger on a forum, that's for sure.

If you have a better idea, then let's hear it. Even though you're a stranger on a forum, I'm willing to hear you out. If eye doctors are not to be trusted, than who is?

In the words of Governer Tarkin. "This bickering is pointless." At least you're willing to stop name calling and listen, Ragnarox.

Ragnarox · #18 (**permalink**) 04-30-2010, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by rfriel

this board is just weird and strange, but its interesting, keeps me coming back

my OD told me aviera was a surperior lens so that has to be right, i will swtich to aviera cause my OD told me so........ OD's are the GODS of contact lens world, their word is scripture......... LOL

I've been to lots of different kinds of doctors, and most of them make a lot of sense. Either that or they say "those blinding headaches and double vision you asked me about? Probably nothing to worry about . . . No, we don' t need to run any tests. You'll be fine."

That's pretty mild compared to some of the nonsense I've read on Internet forums like this one, written by people with no medical training at all and yet they're experts on everything because they're read a few books . . . or Internet forums.

Jurassicmark · #19 (**permalink**) 04-30-2010, 11:33 AM

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this . . . is just weird and strange, but its interesting, keeps me coming back

That's what my friends say to me all the time.

Privateyez · #20 (**permalink**) 11-04-2010, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ragnarox

I agree with Privateyez. I always thought Lens 101 was a website where regular people can come and get help with their questions about glasses, contact lenses and sunglasses. They come here and find words like "modulus" and "neovascularization" and maybe decide to try another website that's easier to understand. We don't want to scare anybody off.
It's okay to use these terms, just keep in mind that most people won't know what they mean until you explain it. Maybe they don't want to understand "OD terminology" and "clinical lit." They just want to know why their contacts aren't comfortable. Let's keep things user-friendly, okay?

Thanks for the support, Ragnarox. I agree with you that users of this forum should be careful of using medical or technical terms that the average Internet surfer may not understand. The person or people who set up this forum probably chose the name "Lens 101" very deliberately to make people feel like they can ask beginner questions without being ridiculed.

Jurassicmark · #21 (**permalink**) 11-23-2010, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Privateyez

Thanks for the support, Ragnarox. I agree with you that users of this forum should be careful of using medical or technical terms that the average Internet surfer may not understand. The person or people who set up this forum probably chose the name "Lens 101" very deliberately to make people feel like they can ask beginner questions without being ridiculed.

That's what I think of when I hear "Lens 101." Not exactly "Lenses for Dummies" but maybe "Lenses for Beginners."

I tried to find a picture of a "Contact Lenses For Dummies" book, but I found this instead. I think it's even better . . .

mgash · #22 (**permalink**) 11-27-2010, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by rfriel

biofinity is like avaira but better, so why avaira, ok maybe modulus is less, but that's got to be the ONLY advantage, every other spec biofinity wins??

I wore Avaira, loved them. Tried Biofinity, and thought I was wearing glass.

Tonythetiger · #23 (**permalink**) 12-15-2010, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jurassicmark

That's what I think of when I hear "Lens 101." Not exactly "Lenses for Dummies" but maybe "Lenses for Beginners."

I tried to find a picture of a "Contact Lenses For Dummies" book, but I found this instead. I think it's even better . . .

Ha, ha. That's a good one, JurrasicMark. Isn't it amazing what you can find on the Internet--or as a friend of mine called it-- "the Interwibble."

Jurassicmark · #24 (**permalink**) 01-06-2011, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mgash

I wore Avaira, loved them. Tried Biofinity, and thought I was wearing glass.

You mean the Biofinity lenses felt thick and stiff?

mgash · #25 (**permalink**) 01-06-2011, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jurassicmark

You mean the Biofinity lenses felt thick and stiff?

I had tried Avaira, and thought I would save money by using their 30 day lens, Biofinity. Very uncomfortable. I tried several solutions with no success. I finally ended up with Acuvue Oasys, because of price and rebates. One year supply on line with rebate was only $99.93 for eight boxes.

K-9 · #26 (**permalink**) 01-07-2011, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mgash

I had tried Avaira, and thought I would save money by using their 30 day lens, Biofinity. Very uncomfortable. I tried several solutions with no success. I finally ended up with Acuvue Oasys, because of price and rebates. One year supply on line with rebate was only $99.93 for eight boxes.

I'm guessing that the Acuvue Oasys lenses are more comfortable? Not as "thick and stiff"?

mgash · #27 (**permalink**) 01-08-2011, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by K-9

I'm guessing that the Acuvue Oasys lenses are more comfortable? Not as "thick and stiff"?

I'd wear Avaira for the same price as Oasys. My OD prefers daily lenses above all, but the price is higher.

Tonythetiger · #28 (**permalink**) 01-25-2011, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mgash

I'd wear Avaira for the same price as Oasys. My OD prefers daily lenses above all, but the price is higher.

Avaira and Acuvue Oasys lenses are 1-2 week lenses. What daily lenses does your OD recommend?

frankiemuniz01 · #29 (**permalink**) 02-19-2011, 11:31 AM

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OV-102 · #30 (**permalink**) 03-02-2011, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mgash

I'd wear Avaira for the same price as Oasys. My OD prefers daily lenses above all, but the price is higher.

Daily lenses are probably a good idea. You always have a fresh pair every morning, and that's worth the extra expense, in my opinion.

redraidermommy · #31 (**permalink**) 04-28-2011, 12:59 PM

I actually love both the avaira & biofinities. Both r comfy, but the avairas seem s lil softer and floppier, while the BIOS were more sturdy. Buy my vision in both is crisp and clear.

ruththomas · #32 (**permalink**) 04-28-2011, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by redraidermommy

I actually love both the avaira & biofinities. Both r comfy, but the avairas seem s lil softer and floppier, while the BIOS were more sturdy. Buy my vision in both is crisp and clear.

So do you personally prefer soft or sturdy lenses?