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Hey guys
I am a new contact user, started back in January... My doctor set me up with Biomedic Torics and I have a pretty high Rx of -8.00 and -9.00. Well I am just completely unsatisfied with them, they make my eyes turn red after a while, and feel all dry and itchy after a while like im wearing plastic... So I asked if I could change my brand or order trials, and my Optician/Doctor refused twice after taking a look at them under the microscope and told me he sees absolutely nothing wrong and that they are well settled and moving around...and I agree given hes a great doctor at age 68. But I want change. So looking around I found Biofinity torics with a BC of 8.7 and Diameter 14.5 that exactly match Biomedic Torics. So I have decided to use my out of network benefit crap and buy it. What do you guys think? Would you recommend it? Also what about Acuvue, since the BC is 8.6, do you think it will affect me? Thanks. Take a look at what happened roughly after 3-4 hours, its getting really annoying and I hate it: Last edited by LENS101; 06-24-2010 at 12:19 PM.. Reason: turned image url into attachment |
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You say you just started wearing Biomedics Toric contact lenses in January, so that would make you a five month veteran, huh? Well, that's really not all that long. Many people start out wearing them a couple of hours a day, and then they gradually build up to wearing them a full 12 hours. Have you done this? Before you give up and try a different brand, maybe you need to cut back and not wear the Biomedics for as long and slowly get used to them. |
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ya i have gotten used to them, wore them straight for a while, a month almost, 8-12 hours a day in college, but the redness gradually worsens every day a bit more and more...that picture is the LEAST amount of redness I have seen in a while...
just wondering if you guys would recommend biofinity torics, given my high Rx, and similar BC and Diameter |
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Try the Biofinity and see how you get on, but the fit should be checked with your eye doctor. knotlob |
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is it true that its really hard to take out and stuff? my Rx is high, so the lens I guess will be slightly thicker than most users...so hypothetically it should be easier to take out right? my biomedics are REALLY REALLY easy to take out
also will the fit really be that different? considering biomedics and biofinity both have 8.7 BC and 14.5 Diameter, and I assume the axis if kept the same wont really make a huge difference, am I correct? much thanks to the users of this forum, big help! |
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In theory, the fit should be OK, since both are marketed by CooperVision, but nonetheless, you should still have the fit checked by your eye care practitioner. You don't want to damage your eyes and if you go to a more cooperative eye care practitioner, you could probably be fitted with a pair of trial Biofinity lenses for free. knotlob |
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Knotlob, does this mean that thicker contact lenses are easier to handle? I always thought that "thinner the better." |
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Generally, longer life lenses (monthly and yearly) will be thicker/stronger in order to resist the increased handling. The flexibility of the lens will also be important. The manufacturers refer to flexibility as modulus, so a low modulus lens is going to be very flexible and may 'feel' thinner, as it may be more fiddly to handle - fold in on itself when on your finger, especially if you add a drop or two of solution to the lens before putting it in your eye. Thicker/higher modulus/less flexible lenses will normally be easier to handle. A low modulus lens will 'drape' over the cornea better too. knotlob |
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So can we sum it up by saying that a thin, low modulus lens may be more "fiddly" to handle, but once you get it in your eye, it will be more comfortable than a thick lens? |
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That's a good question Fitnessmistress, and your answers are always very good, knotlob.
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Hey now, let's not get vulgar. This isn't that kind of website.
Here's what I'm thinking, and I hope I'm wrong. If your eye doctor examined your Biomedics Torics and found them to be in good condition, I have this feeling that no matter what lenses you try, you're going to feel the same way. Shoes are a handy analogy. If your feet hurt even though the shoes you're wearing are the right size and brand new, the problem may be with your feet and not the shoes. If you're wearing contact lenses that fit properly and are in good condition, even when examined by a professional, the problem may not be with the lenses. Maybe you could benefit from some form of treatment for dry eyes. Have you looked into that possibility? |
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thanks for all the input guys, much appreciated. |
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If your lenses are -8.00D and -9.00D then they will be relatively thinner in the centre, so the Dk value will in fact probably be better than that quoted at -3.00D. However, as you said, a Dk of 19 these days is poor and a move to Biofinity should be a big improvement in health and comfort. The redness/discomfort could also be due to an adverse reaction to one of the solutions you are using. What are you using at present? Clear Care (single step peroxide system) is generally recommended if there is a suspicion of contact lens solution allergies, as Clear Care does not contain any preservatives. knotlob |
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Maybe you could continue with the eye drops and over the course of a few days, maybe you'll find that you can go a little longer each day between each treatments. Do you think that's worth a try? |
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guys thanks for the inputs,
i just tried them on today. after struggling like 10 mins with my left eye finally got it in =D OMG THEY ARE A BLESSING TO MY EYES! They feel so much more comfortable and I dont know if I am dreaming but it feels like I can feel waves of air passing right through my contacts touching my cornea, lol. ill update later on the redness issue, but so far I have no complaints, these are 100000 times better than biomedics torics! gracias to this forum for its existence!! ![]() |
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ok so after using them for a couple of days i def see an improvement in redness, but in terms of comfort, not so much, after a while the plastic feeling comes back...
also almost had a panic attack removing my right lens out, took me almost 12 tries until finally I could pinch it out, by then my whole eye was bloodshot red... i just guess i cant be a regular contact user, back to glasses for the majority of the time |
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Hi. If you're still wanting to try contacts, or have some left from your purchase, try using a peroxide based solution. Problems like this are often caused by the cleaning ingredient in the multi-purpose solution drying out the eye itself. The fact that they were fine for the first few days before the dryness issues returned would point in that direction.
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That doesn't sound biased, does it? |
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ya thanks for the input guys
i have started college again, final year wooo haven't been wearing contacts much these days but when I do the redness issue that I mentioned at the beginning of the post returns quite prominently within 3-4 hours... if im reading on the laptop, or even reading a book (staring down) it seems that the redness picks up faster... i dont really understand what the issue is, most of my friends have torics and they seem fine, I am starting to suspect it is the fact that my Rx is so high -9 and -8 that has something to do with the redness being developed outside near the contact lens itself...but alas I am unable to visit an optician nearby as my doctor is back in buffalo and i am 440 miles away at college...guess i am stuck with these torics til winter break |
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When I was in college, there was a medical center right there on campus. Is there some place on or near campus were students can go for contact lenses? I'm sure there are tons of your classmates who don't just wait until the semester's over to see an eye doctor, aren't there? |
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unfortunately no...nothing near by this campus is in the middle of nowhere and my insurance is def not covered here....don't even have a car either so sucks!!!
does anyone suggest I wear them constantly everyday for a week straight? will this like help my eyes de-sensitize and reduce the redness? |
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I don't think you should wear your lenses intensively to desensitise them. RGP lenses need to have the eyes desensitised to make them wearable but you would do that gradually, starting with 2 hours wear/day and building up an hour or two/day extra. I doubt that is necessary with soft lenses. I feel that maybe you have some minor allergy to one of the lens solutions you are using, or alternatively some environmental allergy (pollen, dust mites, wood dust, etc). So, you are wearing Biofinity toric lenses, which initially feel very good, but after a few hours, your eyes become red. You switched to Clear Care, which is preservative free. Are you still using some sort of eye drops? Maybe there could be a problem with some ingredient there? Have you tried an alternative make of eye drop? When did the redness start? It was with the original Biomedic Torics - right? What happens if you stop wearing the contact lenses and stick to the spectacles for a week or two? Does the redness go away or is it still a problem? You are a student whose home is in Buffalo. Did you wear the lenses in Buffalo and was there a redness problem there? I am trying to pin point the factor(s) which may be causing the redness. Particularly if the redness is associated with your student residence rather than your home residence. knotlob |
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On the one hand, judging by the picture at the top of this thread, your eyes don't look all that red to me. On the other hand, if it's been about three months and you're still not comfortable in the Biomedic Torics, something needs to be done. You say that you've also tried Biofinity torics too, and the redness was still present. Maybe you need to try another brand, or maybe see a different doctor. You might find one that has some radical new ideas to help people in situations similar to yours. Let us know what you decide, okay? |
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So maybe the environmental allergy can be ruled out if the problem was there in both Buffalo and in your student location. Redness goes away when you stop wearing contact lenses. Problem is contact lens or solution related. Redness with both Biofinity & Biomedic Torics. Unlikely the lenses are the problem. You don't use eye drops any more. Conclusion is you have an adverse reaction to the solution (one of the components in it, which is quite common). I would suggest you stop with the Renu Fresh and try Clear Care peroxide preservative free disinfection/cleaning solution for a few weeks. knotlob |
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Good to read about using the Clear Care solution!! I've had the same problem with my eyes getting really red, much like fubag when I wear my contacts for more than about 5-6 hours. I used to wear them constantly without any problem, then at some point my eyes started getting red with them and I've only worn them intermittently for the last 4 or 5 years. If simply changing the solution will fix it I will be VERY pleased.
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It's a process of elimination, but a surprising number of problems with contact lens comfort is linked to the contact lens solution, or at least the preservatives in these solutions. Clear Care really is the defacto standard to try if there is a suspicion of contact lens allergies through the solutions. knotlob |
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Yeah, I've read a lot of good things about Clear Care on Lens 101 too.
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) and, though I haven't yet experienced redness with them, as I did with my previous lenses, I'd rather not start, kwim? ![]() Bought the new solution today, I'll let you know how it goes. |
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Thanks nexis777, and thanks for introducing me to the Internet abbreviation "kwim." That stands for "Know What I Mean," right?
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Yep, kwim is "Know What I Mean". I'm definitely liking the new solution just fine, and I have not, as yet, experienced any redness with these contacts/solution whatsoever. That makes me very happy ![]() |
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Gracias amigos! |
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It's been a long road, and I hope you finally found a way to wear your contact lenses comfortably, fubag. Please keep us informed of your progress.
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When you say "new solution" do you mean Clear Care?
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I'd like to now how the Clear Care works out for you. So make sure to come back and tell us your experience.
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Frustrated |
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Were the Proclear lenses that you wore before toric? If not, there is a such thing as Proclear Toric contact lenses. http://www.lens.com/contact-lenses/lens393.asp
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I wore proclear toric in the past with no problems but my doctor thought the biofinity were going to be more comfortable and I would be a good candidate for them. Wrong!
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Let's hope that you can go back to the Proclear Toric lenses. Please keep us informed.
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Would you like to go back to the Proclear Toric? Was it your idea to switch or your eye doctor's?
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Everybody's different. I used to wear Proclear, but could never wear them all day. With the Biofinity, I can go all day and never notice it. I've slept in it once, and that was far more comfortable the next morning than any extended wear lens I'd ever worn in the past (years ago).
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