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Here's the scenario. You put in your fresh new Boston ES contact lenses. Then within about ten minutes, your vision begins to get cloudy. You take them out and clean them carefully, only to have the lenses stay clear for about another ten minutes, then you have to clean them again.
Is it possible that protein can build up on your contacts so fast? |
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Mine do exactly what you are describing. The eye doctor says its probably because the composition of my tears has changed....I'm not sure I believe that. I am using enzymes daily, plus Boston Advance cleaner and Boston Simplus for overnight soaking. Why do the products not remove this protein off the lenses and keep it off. I have not had this problem before....could it be the lenses? My eyes don't feel dry so don't think it's that?
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I have the same problem. After trying many things (solutions, mechanical and chemical cleanings, no eye make up, etc.) the optician finally ordered a new pair of lenses, but cloudiness still happens. It seems to occur in the morning if I put my lenses in within an hour or two of getting up. I take them out several times to clean them and eventually they are fine (usually). If I wait until later in the day to put them in, there is no cloudiness. This is very frustrating! I have worn RGP's since 1986 and never had a problem until about 2 months ago.
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SO...I see from the above post, this thread is over a year old, but after googling my problem with my contacts, it led me here.
This is the EXACT problem I have been having. It started abt a year ago. At first I thought I had accidentally gotten sunscreen on my lens' but the eye dr said I just needed to clean them better. He suggested something called LOBOB. Unfortunately, not only is it difficult to find, but extremely costly as well. I did get 1 bottle, but still had the same problem. I went so far as to order a new right lens, but after 2 days, I continued to have the same problem. I visited the optician and she said a change in meds could make your eyes have problems like what I was experiencing, however, that too, would not be my problem as I haven't changed anything. She ordered me a new set of lenses thinking they may have been faulty. Still no luck with improvement. Almost 1 year later...I'm wearing my glasses (bifocals) more regularly, unfortunately, as the problem with the contacts is still there. I never had the problem before last summer, and still don't know why I can only wear the lens for 2 hours tops, before I have to pop them out and start over...clean, polish, rinse, etc. Would love to know if anyone ever comes up with a solution. jststmpit ![]() |
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Welcome to Lens 101. Sorry to read about your problems with your contact lenses. You didn't mention what brand you wear, so I'm going to assume that they're Boston ES, because that's the section we're in right now. I did a Google search about protein buildup on RGP contact lenses, and they recommend three things. One is to make sure you're cleaning them thoroughly. Secondly, they say to make sure you don't wear them too long. Your eye doctor should have told you how often to replace your contacts. You seem pretty sharp to me, so I'm going to once again assume that you're doing those things already. The only other suggestion I found was to try a different brand of contact lenses. The article I found mentioned Focus Night and Day specifically, but now those contacts are known as Air Optix Night & Day Aqua. Ask your eye doctor about making the switch, although these contacts are monthly replacement, so you'll have to get used to replacing your contacts more often if you decide to go that route. If they stop the protein buildup, then hey, it's worth it in my book. Let us know how things go for you, okay? |
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Hello Everyone!
I have been wearing contact lenses for many many years. Over 26 years now and still going strong. I don't want to cause a major debate here but, I have had the exact same problem you are describing across the board with Hard PMMA lenses, RGP lenses Boston, Hydro 2, and soft Lenses. The culprit? Allergies to chemicals in the solutions. When ever I encounter a foggy lens after a short insertion time like 10 mins or so. I know that the solution must have something I am allergic to. All Boston solutions cause foggy lenses very rapidly for me... So does most of the soft lens solutions No Rub formulas available. So, the best solution is 2 different MFGs. I recommend LoBob Optimum CDS, ESC, and WRW, and also Ciba Clear Care solutions. They are both chemical disenfection methods and both work well and have very little chance of allergic reactions such as fogging, or red eye Unless you don't rinse the Optimum CDS or ESC very well before insertion. And Ciba Clear Care must be neutralized in the Case that comes with the solution for a minimum of 6 hours I believe. The Disc in the bottom of the case neutralizes the Hydrogen Peroxide and converts to normal saline. I use the Optimum CDS and Saline 1/2 and 1/2 in my Ultrasonic cleaner and just rinse them well with Distilled water and then put the Wetting Re-Wetting solution on the lens and then insert it. Very comfortable and you also won't experience blurry vision for a few mins like you do with conditioning solutions such as Boston Simplus, or Boston Advance conditioning solution. This is because the LoBob Optimum WRW is like a tear and not a slimy liquid. Your lenses settle quicker. I have also used the Clear Care before and It's very good as well. There is even fewer chances of Allergies (cloudy lenses) with this solution as it's essentially Saline and Hydrogen Peroxide after The solution is neutralized in the case (You will see the neutralizer go to work immediately, there will be thousands of tiny bubbles rising up from the disc to the top of the case). The action of the bubbles actually helps clean the lenses from dirt and films without rubbing. I rub them anyway with a bit of clear care before I put them in the case to be disinfected. So, If you are having problems every day with a cloudy lens after inserting it... I would recommend you contact your eye doctor and verify with them that you can try Ciba Clear Care. I recommend going to Clear Care first even if you want to switch to LoBob Optimum. The reason to use Clear Care first is that the Hydrogen Peroxide in Clear Care will purge the lenses of any of the Boston Solutions very quickly usually in the 1st use. Then if you want to switch you won't have to deal with residual chemicals left on the lenses. I hope this helps and always check with your Eye Dr. before you switch solutions on your own, they are the experts after all. Cheers! TrekBear |
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I want to hear back from you guys so you can tell me how this solution works, okay? |
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I counted five variations of "mine do that too" in this thread.
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Five of them, huh? I wonder of the Clear Care did the trick and that's not why they're not posting any more?
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Still using Clear Care on both sets of my lenses. I have the new Boston XO2 material in my multifocal lenses which I use for everyday wear and when I have a lot of tiny print to review and don't want to wear my glasses. I also, have my old RX which give me Superb Distance and good midrange and just soso near/reading. These lenses are just about 2 weeks old now and have nothing but clear care used on them as well as the Ultrasonic Cleaner with Clear Care soaking solution used in the unit then fresh poured into the conversion/platinum disc cup for conversion to saline. Before putting them in, I do a quick 5 second rinse in store-brand sensitive eyes saline. lenses still clean as new and using the ultrasonic cleaner I feel keeps the deposits off of the lenses.
I have converted 4 other RGP lens wearers to Clear Care that where having the cloudy dirty lens problems and theirs cleared up too. So, It's not just me that is having good luck too. ![]() Cheers! TrekBear |
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You said you didn't want to "cause a major debate" but I found your information to be very helpful and not debatable at all. I've read a lot of good things about Clear Care on this forum, and I don't think I've ever come across anything negative. Thanks for pitching in. |
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Unfortunately, many Dr.s and contact lenses fitters fall for the 'more oxygen is better' trap. We can get higher oxygen, but at what cost in other areas.
The wetting angle gets higher as the dk goes up. So what good is a high dk lens if you can't wear it??? Go to a lower dk lens with a low wetting angle or one of the new hybrid RGPs. |
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) Have you found contact lenses and a cleaner that you can live with and see clearly? |
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In most, but not all. The Contamac RGPs have have a great high o2 lens with a low wetting angle. I think the Forum sponsors sell these lenses.
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I have the Menicon Z alpha with Dk of 162/189 but a wetting angle of 23 Deg. A trade of of higher silicone for higher Dk but poorer wetting. knotlob |
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I wore Omniflex (Yearly/Vial) lenses (daily wear) for about 30 years. They had a Dk of 30 and high water content. I am surprised that some of the very low Dk lenses are still on sale to this day, when there are 'better' lenses available. knotlob |
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Maybe they're better in other ways, and the lower Dk values are a trade-off, I don't know.
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the lower dk rgp's still have higher dk values than the thinnest high water content soft lens. |
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I have experienced this phenomenon myself....It was an allergy to the preservatives in the boston lens care products and it was way too thick and gucky..My eyes didnt like it......Try the optimum system for rgp's...the gucky haziness may go away! |
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yes it can damage the plasma coating and creates dry areas micrscopically on the surface!
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Clearcare is not generally used for RGP's. If you have a 'build up' on your lenses and use a protein remover, and the haze is still there, IT'S NOT PROTEIN. Their are several different things that CAN build up on any CL. The next likely is 'calcium'. You can soak your lenses in protein remover for a week and it will do nothing to calcium. The best solution to the problem is usually the Alcon Daily Cleaner for RGP's.
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I googled and came across you old post above. I read that you have multifocal Rx for Boston XO2 lens. I'm being told today, 2/2012, that Boston from Bausch & Lomb will not polish into a multifocal lens; except the only Boston lens that will do multifocal is Boston ES up to a max 1.5 ADD (ie 150). Please verify that your lab is producing a multifocal lens with Boston XO or Boston XO2 material. What is your Add Rx? Thx |
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Because the cleaning action is mechanical (tiny polymer beads) and not chemical, it will work on calcium and lipid deposits as well.
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Cool, thanks. I didn't know about those polymer beads in Alcon Daily Cleaner.
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