Color or Real?

thisandthat · #1 (**permalink**) 08-13-2010, 02:51 AM

Hey guys... Bear with me I have a question and you guys are the experts

I've been dating a girl for a year now and she is darker skin half spanish with really blue eyes. She has always told me they are real and I have been on vacation with her for over a week and never seen her ever do anything with her eyes. Never once have I even had the slightest doubt that they weren't real. Recently, a couple of my friends have seen her and said that they are contacts. I brushed it off thinking that they are just being stupid, but the other day I was sitting in the light and I noticed a ridge around her iris. I couldn't really see it on both eyes but I can't really stare that close it is strange.

I also can't confront her on it because a long time ago I was joking with her and said she wore contacts and she got really angry and said that she has been hearing that so many times it makes her furious and she never wants me to ask again. I think they are her real eyes and it is sad the poor girl has to deal with people questioning her, but here I am dumbfounded wondering if she could possibly be lying to me.

I just can't understand where this perfect ring around her iris could come from? Do some people naturally just have a small ridge around there? And is it possible if she did wear contacts that she could sleep in them 7 nights? Also wouldn't some of the natural eye color pop through when we are out in the sun? I can't remember ever seeing anything odd but to be honest I have never really looked closely because I just assume that if someone says there eyes are real you shouldn't have the slightest doubt but believe them. There are things she has hid before but this one, if she is hiding it would just be odd.

Opinions would be much appreciated. I don't want to put the girl through me confronting her unless I have some pretty reasonable doubt.

Thanks a lot

Knotlob · #2 (**permalink**) 08-13-2010, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by thisandthat

Hey guys... Bear with me I have a question and you guys are the experts

I've been dating a girl for a year now and she is darker skin half spanish with really blue eyes. She has always told me they are real and I have been on vacation with her for over a week and never seen her ever do anything with her eyes. Never once have I even had the slightest doubt that they weren't real. Recently, a couple of my friends have seen her and said that they are contacts. I brushed it off thinking that they are just being stupid, but the other day I was sitting in the light and I noticed a ridge around her iris. I couldn't really see it on both eyes but I can't really stare that close it is strange.

I also can't confront her on it because a long time ago I was joking with her and said she wore contacts and she got really angry and said that she has been hearing that so many times it makes her furious and she never wants me to ask again. I think they are her real eyes and it is sad the poor girl has to deal with people questioning her, but here I am dumbfounded wondering if she could possibly be lying to me.

I just can't understand where this perfect ring around her iris could come from? Do some people naturally just have a small ridge around there? And is it possible if she did wear contacts that she could sleep in them 7 nights? Also wouldn't some of the natural eye color pop through when we are out in the sun? I can't remember ever seeing anything odd but to be honest I have never really looked closely because I just assume that if someone says there eyes are real you shouldn't have the slightest doubt but believe them. There are things she has hid before but this one, if she is hiding it would just be odd.

Opinions would be much appreciated. I don't want to put the girl through me confronting her unless I have some pretty reasonable doubt.

Thanks a lot, i put a link with a cut out picture as well for you to look at. It is bad quality but all I have.

Hello thisandthat and welcome to Lens101 forum.

I'm not a wearer or expert in coloured lenses, so cannot offer much specific advice.

While I would expect a Spanish complexion to be associated with brown eyes, you mention she is half Spanish, so it is entirely possible for her to have genuinely blue eyes.

Some people do wear contact lenses on a weekly or monthly (or God forbid) even longer basis at night without cleaning/disinfecting. It is a very bad practice. Also coloured lenses tend to use lens materials, which are not very oxygen breathable and wearing at night would be extremely bad for the eyes.

With clear lenses, it is occasionally possible, if looking very closely, to see the edge of the lens on the eye ball, so the same would be possible with coloured lenses.

You are right that one of the problems with coloured contact lenses is the problem with the eye iris diameter changing in response to the amount of light which the eye sees. i.e. the coloured contact naturally has a fixed iris diameter and in sunlight the eye's iris will close to a very small diameter to protect the eye. This effectively would allow the 'real' eye colour - e.g. brown, to bleed through, which is normally a dead givaway. If the lens designers make the iris too small, that will adversely impact on the vision at night or in poor light conditions. The Solotica and possibly Magic Top lenses (both from Brazil) seem to have smaller diameter irises than some of the other coloured lenses in order to reduce the colour bleed. As a result, they have many fans on this forum, though there are questions as to the comfort of some of these lenses. This probably suggests your girl friend is not wearing coloured lenses.

Does the colour of her eyes matter to you so much or are you more concerned that she is not being entirely honest with you? I think maybe you should give her the benefit of the doubt and accept that she does not wear contact lenses. It is possible that the 'ridge' you see in her eye is entirely natural. Eye balls are not perfectly spherical, but are aspheric - have at least two different radius curves. I think in a year together, you would have seen other signs of contact lenses if indeed she did wear them.

knotlob

Brittvid · #3 (**permalink**) 08-13-2010, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by thisandthat

Hey guys... Bear with me I have a question and you guys are the experts

I've been dating a girl for a year now and she is darker skin half spanish with really blue eyes. She has always told me they are real and I have been on vacation with her for over a week and never seen her ever do anything with her eyes. Never once have I even had the slightest doubt that they weren't real. Recently, a couple of my friends have seen her and said that they are contacts. I brushed it off thinking that they are just being stupid, but the other day I was sitting in the light and I noticed a ridge around her iris. I couldn't really see it on both eyes but I can't really stare that close it is strange.

I also can't confront her on it because a long time ago I was joking with her and said she wore contacts and she got really angry and said that she has been hearing that so many times it makes her furious and she never wants me to ask again. I think they are her real eyes and it is sad the poor girl has to deal with people questioning her, but here I am dumbfounded wondering if she could possibly be lying to me.

I just can't understand where this perfect ring around her iris could come from? Do some people naturally just have a small ridge around there? And is it possible if she did wear contacts that she could sleep in them 7 nights? Also wouldn't some of the natural eye color pop through when we are out in the sun? I can't remember ever seeing anything odd but to be honest I have never really looked closely because I just assume that if someone says there eyes are real you shouldn't have the slightest doubt but believe them. There are things she has hid before but this one, if she is hiding it would just be odd.

Opinions would be much appreciated. I don't want to put the girl through me confronting her unless I have some pretty reasonable doubt.

Thanks a lot, i put a link with a cut out picture as well for you to look at. It is bad quality but all I have.

Hi there, thisandthat.

You ask a very interesting question. First of all, let me say that her eyes are a pretty color. Secondly, the picture is very blurred and it's hard to tell anything about her eyes.

Also, if you know anything about genetics, you know that blue eyes are a recessive trait, so unless there are some unusual circumstances, they only way here eyes would be blue is if both of her parents have blue eyes. My mother had blue eyes and my father has brown eyes, and my three siblings and I all have brown eyes.

Finally, let me put on my Dr. Phil hat and advise you to enjoy your time with your girlfriend and don't worry so much about her eye color. If she's wearing contacts, you will find out sooner or later. If you spent an entire week with her on vacation, and you didn't see anything like saline solution or a lens case or something to indicate that she wears contacts, then her eyes are probably natural.

Years ago I was friends with two very pretty girls who are sisters. I was at their house one night and it got quite late and so they both excused themselves to take out their contacts and put on their glasses. So again, if you spent a week with her and she didn't start rubbing her eyes around bedtime before excusing herself for five or ten minutes and then returning with red eyes, I think she's "all natural."

The only evidence you have that she's wearing them is that "ridge" that you see, and your friends "being stupid."
My vote is that she's telling you the truth.

Let us know if you find out definitely one way or another. In the mean time, have fun and enjoy the relationship. I wish you well.

thisandthat · #4 (**permalink**) 08-13-2010, 01:02 PM

Thanks for the responses!! It's not that i'm concerned of her eye color as much as the honesty. If she had told me from the start that she wore color contacts once in awhile I wouldn't have a problem with it. From what I read, I think you re-assure me they are probably real.

I've have never seen any other color bleed through in the day. Although if her eyes are naturally very dark I guess I wouldn't be able to tell. In the week I was away with her I never saw any signs of contact lenses. No solutions, nothing like that. She would get ready for bed, but when she came to bed her eyes were still blue... Just the ridge on her eye and some pictures looked a bit different. I honestly don't remember seeing her with a small pupil ever which is one thing that makes me wonder, but maybe I have never paid close attention. Next time in the sun I will look... For now I will give the benefit of doubt and let you guys know what happens down the road.

Thanks a lot

Nichobec · #5 (**permalink**) 08-13-2010, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by thisandthat

Thanks for the responses!! It's not that i'm concerned of her eye color as much as the honesty. If she had told me from the start that she wore color contacts once in awhile I wouldn't have a problem with it. From what I read, I think you re-assure me they are probably real.

I've have never seen any other color bleed through in the day. Although if her eyes are naturally very dark I guess I wouldn't be able to tell. In the week I was away with her I never saw any signs of contact lenses. No solutions, nothing like that. She would get ready for bed, but when she came to bed her eyes were still blue... Just the ridge on her eye and some pictures looked a bit different. I honestly don't remember seeing her with a small pupil ever which is one thing that makes me wonder, but maybe I have never paid close attention. Next time in the sun I will look... For now I will give the benefit of doubt and let you guys know what happens down the road.

Thanks a lot

Britvid makes several good points. If he or she can spend less than 24 hours with those sisters and learn that they wear contact lenses, you probably should have gotten a clue in a week.

Listen. Don't sweat it. It sounds like you're making it a bigger issue than it is. Don't obsess about the contact lenses. It doesn't seem likely, but if you can't let go of this, it might just be a deal-breaker for her. Trust her that she's telling you the truth, and if you find out she really is wearing colored contact lenses, you can address it then. It wouldn't be the end of the world, and if you keep your cool, it won't be the end of your relationship.
For now, it sounds like you have a good thing going. An honest girl with beautiful blue eyes. Enjoy it.

Brittvid · #6 (**permalink**) 08-13-2010, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Nichobec

Britvid makes several good points. If he or she can spend less than 24 hours with those sisters and learn that they wear contact lenses, you probably should have gotten a clue in a week.

Listen. Don't sweat it. It sounds like you're making it a bigger issue than it is. Don't obsess about the contact lenses. It doesn't seem likely, but if you can't let go of this, it might just be a deal-breaker for her. Trust her that she's telling you the truth, and if you find out she really is wearing colored contact lenses, you can address it then. It wouldn't be the end of the world, and if you keep your cool, it won't be the end of your relationship.
For now, it sounds like you have a good thing going. An honest girl with beautiful blue eyes. Enjoy it.

Thank you for the recognition, Nicobec. I agree with the advice you're giving.

I hope you can work through this, thisandthat. We're here for you.

thisandthat · #7 (**permalink**) 08-13-2010, 03:26 PM

Thanks again! Everything points to them not being contacts but now I have a feeling they might be. I was trying to describe this ridge, well the ridge I saw on her eye looks exactly like the one I'm going to attach. Obviously not with the stupid soccer design on it

But if you look a few mm outside the iris you see that ridge, that is exactly what I see.

What I don't understand is how she could possibly be lying to me or why? She has met all my family and tells them her eyes are real, all my friends and says they are real. If they really are contacts I must be very dumb to date a girl and see her 3 times a week for a year without realizing they are fake, and on her end it must be very stressful trying to hid something like that... Especially knowing that eventually it would have to come out.

I'm not going to question her, but next time I see her I am just going to ask what that strange ridge is. Maybe she can explain it to me, or maybe she will come out and tell me that she has been scared to tell me for awhile. Or maybe coincidentally it is just a natural ridge

Knotlob · #8 (**permalink**) 08-13-2010, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by thisandthat

Thanks again! Everything points to them not being contacts but now I have a feeling they might be. I was trying to describe this ridge, well the ridge I saw on her eye looks exactly like the one I'm going to attach. Obviously not with the stupid soccer design on it

But if you look a few mm outside the iris you see that ridge, that is exactly what I see.

What I don't understand is how she could possibly be lying to me or why? She has met all my family and tells them her eyes are real, all my friends and says they are real. If they really are contacts I must be very dumb to date a girl and see her 3 times a week for a year without realizing they are fake, and on her end it must be very stressful trying to hid something like that... Especially knowing that eventually it would have to come out.

I'm not going to question her, but next time I see her I am just going to ask what that strange ridge is. Maybe she can explain it to me, or maybe she will come out and tell me that she has been scared to tell me for awhile. Or maybe coincidentally it is just a natural ridge

Well another possibility is that she does indeed have natural blue eyes but wears clear prescription contact lenses.

That way, you wouldn't see colour bleeding through the iris under bright light conditions and she gets annoyed with people suggesting her eye COLOUR is not real.

But you would surely have seen the lens solutions, etc. Does she still have blue eyes when swimming (or does she not swim?). (This is not a definitive diagnostic as I used to swim with soft lenses in, though usually wore goggles with them, but most people wouldn't risk wearing contacts whilst swimming).

I guess you need to be sure that the ridge is in both eyes if you are going to raise the question with her, since it is obviously a sensitive issue.

knotlob

Georgiaonmymind · #9 (**permalink**) 08-13-2010, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by thisandthat

Thanks again! Everything points to them not being contacts but now I have a feeling they might be. I was trying to describe this ridge, well the ridge I saw on her eye looks exactly like the one I'm going to attach. Obviously not with the stupid soccer design on it

But if you look a few mm outside the iris you see that ridge, that is exactly what I see.

What I don't understand is how she could possibly be lying to me or why? She has met all my family and tells them her eyes are real, all my friends and says they are real. If they really are contacts I must be very dumb to date a girl and see her 3 times a week for a year without realizing they are fake, and on her end it must be very stressful trying to hid something like that... Especially knowing that eventually it would have to come out.

I'm not going to question her, but next time I see her I am just going to ask what that strange ridge is. Maybe she can explain it to me, or maybe she will come out and tell me that she has been scared to tell me for awhile. Or maybe coincidentally it is just a natural ridge

Hi thisandthat.

This is quite an interesting thread you've inspired here.

It took me a while, but I finally found a picture of someone who looks like they maybe wearing contacts, but they're not. It comes from a website that shows eye injuries, so the eye is a bit bloodshot, but if you look, there seems to be a slight edge around the person's iris. As far as I know this person is not wearing contact lenses.

Obviously, I have no idea if your boyfriend is wearing contacts or not. If he is, I hope you two can have a nice talk about trusting one another.

If it turns out he's not wearing contact lenses . . . I hope you two can have a nice talk about trusting one another.

Knotlob · #10 (**permalink**) 08-13-2010, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Georgiaonmymind

Hi thisandthat.

This is quite an interesting thread you've inspired here.

It took me a while, but I finally found a picture of someone who looks like they maybe wearing contacts, but they're not. It comes from a website that shows eye injuries, so the eye is a bit bloodshot, but if you look, there seems to be a slight edge around the person's iris. As far as I know this person is not wearing contact lenses.

Obviously, I have no idea if your boyfriend is wearing contacts or not. If he is, I hope you two can have a nice talk about trusting one another.

If it turns out he's not wearing contact lenses . . . I hope you two can have a nice talk about trusting one another.

Hi Georgiaonmymind

I think you are mixing up genders here - the person with the blue eyes is a girl friend!

Anyway, that's an interesting photograph you posted. It does appear to show the kind of ridge normally associated with contacts, so may put thisandthat's mind at ease.

knotlob

thisandthat · #11 (**permalink**) 08-13-2010, 05:18 PM

What I really don't understand is why if she wore clear contacts she would have hid them from me. She has never mentioned them, I've never seen any solutions or anything. She tells me everything, i'm very close with her, that is why this is so baffling.

I don't believe they are fake for the simple reason I just don't understand how she could think she could get away for a long time with this with hiding it. She is very close to me. But then I think I might just be a fool because things point the other way.

She never goes in the water, out of the million times we've been in the ocean or lake there is always an excuse... :S I just need to talk with her and bare the brunt if she gets mad and I'm just being paranoid. Either way it is better off to clear the air then wonder. The most logical reason I can think of is maybe she has blue eyes, but maybe wears some sort of enhancing contacts sometimes. She wouldn't want to mention that maybe and would hid it, but could also get away with not wearing them a bunch of times because her eyes are a different shade of blue anyways. I do recall her eyes being more blue sometimes then others, but she says its because of the sun or clothing.

Thanks for all the input. And thanks for finding that picture georgiaonmind, it shows it is possible!

Knotlob · #12 (**permalink**) 08-13-2010, 06:57 PM

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I do recall her eyes being more blue sometimes then others, but she says its because of the sun or clothing.

Yes, I understand that is possible. Many members on this forum have commented that their eyes appear different colours at different times - probably depending on the ambient lighting and what colour clothing they are wearing.

knotlob

thisandthat · #13 (**permalink**) 08-13-2010, 08:38 PM

To follow this up I asked her about it this afternoon, and she spazed at me that she thinks I have doubts about her eyes which was just weird and a little overboard but also told me she wears normal contacts sometimes when she is in the sun or if her eyes get sore from looking at things in the far distance, and that she wore them the last couple days.

And then she went off saying she doesn't have to tell me everything which is fine, just thought it is a bit strange that she mentions everything but neglects to tell me ever that she uses contacts sometimes and I have never seen them. Anyways the question I posted on here was mostly about the ridges and I've got to the bottom of it that the are contacts. Whether that is the full story or not is yet to be decided but for now I just leave it alone and have fun.

Maybe if one day I get a close picture that is good quality ill put it up but for now I should just believe her as strange as it all is.

Have a good weekend everyone!

Knotlob · #14 (**permalink**) 08-14-2010, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by thisandthat

To follow this up I asked her about it this afternoon, and she spazed at me that she thinks I have doubts about her eyes which was just weird and a little overboard but also told me she wears normal contacts sometimes when she is in the sun or if her eyes get sore from looking at things in the far distance, and that she wore them the last couple days.

And then she went off saying she doesn't have to tell me everything which is fine, just thought it is a bit strange that she mentions everything but neglects to tell me ever that she uses contacts sometimes and I have never seen them. Anyways the question I posted on here was mostly about the ridges and I've got to the bottom of it that the are contacts. Whether that is the full story or not is yet to be decided but for now I just leave it alone and have fun.

Maybe if one day I get a close picture that is good quality ill put it up but for now I should just believe her as strange as it all is.

Have a good weekend everyone!

Hello thisandthat

Well that confirms one of my later theories! Anyway, sounds sensible. Sometimes people are a bit strange (from another's view point). Maybe she didn't want to tell you about contacts because she is myopic/short sighted and she's worried that she will have to wear glasses and you won't want to go out with her again!

Strange but my wife was terrified that she may get varicose veins and didn't want to tell me for similar reasons, before we got married, etc. As if there weren't more important issues in life to worry about!

Anyway, best leave it for a while and trust your girl friend, since you have a seemingly very close relationship (apart from the contacts issue).

I wish you well together.

knotlob

thecurlyfitchic · #15 (**permalink**) 08-14-2010, 01:11 PM

I was going to ask what does her drivers license say, but it seems like it has been resolved!

Knotlob · #16 (**permalink**) 08-14-2010, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Brittvid

Hi there, thisandthat.

Also, if you know anything about genetics, you know that blue eyes are a recessive trait, so unless there are some unusual circumstances, they only way here eyes would be blue is if both of her parents have blue eyes. My mother had blue eyes and my father has brown eyes, and my three siblings and I all have brown eyes.

Actually I checked this with my wife. She said her father had brown eyes and her mother blue. Half the (very large) family had blue eyes, while the remainder had brown eyes. The eye colour could also be something entirely different if there is a throwback to the grandparents or great grandparents genes.

knotlob

MaryTamm2 · #17 (**permalink**) 08-16-2010, 11:25 AM

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Hi Georgiaonmymind

I think you are mixing up genders here - the person with the blue eyes is a girl friend!

knotlob

It's hard to keep track of genders when you can't see anybody.

I don't blame Georgiaonmymind for being confused.

Sounds like good advice, though.

MaryTamm2 · #18 (**permalink**) 08-16-2010, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by thisandthat

To follow this up I asked her about it this afternoon, and she spazed at me that she thinks I have doubts about her eyes which was just weird and a little overboard but also told me she wears normal contacts sometimes when she is in the sun or if her eyes get sore from looking at things in the far distance, and that she wore them the last couple days.

And then she went off saying she doesn't have to tell me everything which is fine, just thought it is a bit strange that she mentions everything but neglects to tell me ever that she uses contacts sometimes and I have never seen them. Anyways the question I posted on here was mostly about the ridges and I've got to the bottom of it that the are contacts. Whether that is the full story or not is yet to be decided but for now I just leave it alone and have fun.

Maybe if one day I get a close picture that is good quality ill put it up but for now I should just believe her as strange as it all is.

Have a good weekend everyone!

It sounds like you two have some things to talk about. I don't know why she "spazzed" when you finally asked her, or why this is such a big deal to you, but I hope this opens up the lines of communication for you both and you learn to share things a bit more openly. I wish you both well.

thecurlyfitchic · #19 (**permalink**) 08-16-2010, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Knotlob

Actually I checked this with my wife. She said her father had brown eyes and her mother blue. Half the (very large) family had blue eyes, while the remainder had brown eyes. The eye colour could also be something entirely different if there is a throwback to the grandparents or great grandparents genes.

knotlob

That is absolutely correct. I am of mixed race and I have relatives with blue eyes when one parent has brown eyes and that parent is of African American descent or has African American blood in them.

yournamehere · #20 (**permalink**) 08-16-2010, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Knotlob

Actually I checked this with my wife. She said her father had brown eyes and her mother blue. Half the (very large) family had blue eyes, while the remainder had brown eyes. The eye colour could also be something entirely different if there is a throwback to the grandparents or great grandparents genes.

knotlob

So when you say "half the (very large) family" you mean your wife and her siblings? The children of her brown eyed father and blue eyed mother?

My parents had the same eye color arrangement and their four children all have brown eyes. Perhaps if they had more children the blue eyes would have showed themselves.

Knotlob · #21 (**permalink**) 08-16-2010, 04:20 PM

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So when you say "half the (very large) family" you mean your wife and her siblings? The children of her brown eyed father and blue eyed mother?

My parents had the same eye color arrangement and their four children all have brown eyes. Perhaps if they had more children the blue eyes would have showed themselves.

Yes, the father had brown eyes, the mother had blue. My wife and I both have blue eyes and our son blue also. I don't think there are any guarantees of what colour eyes subsequent generations will have - only probabilities.

knotlob

Nursenancy · #22 (**permalink**) 08-17-2010, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Knotlob

Yes, the father had brown eyes, the mother had blue. My wife and I both have blue eyes and our son blue also. I don't think there are any guarantees of what colour eyes subsequent generations will have - only probabilities.

knotlob

Yup all those laws of genetics and stuff.

Here's an interesting site if you want to know what color eyes your children will have according to the laws of genetics. You plug in your eye color and your mate's eye color--and you can also input your parents' and your in-laws' eye color--to give you a prediction of your children's eye color.

http://museum.thetech.org/ugenetics/eyeCalc/eyecalculator.html

Here's the score from when I tried it. I have brown eyes. My fictional mate has blue eyes. Result: of our projected six children, three will have brown eyes, two will have blue eyes and one will have green eyes.

Just out of curiosity, I clicked "calculate" again, and it changed. Now we have five blue eyed children and one brown eyed.

*Click*

Now the score is brown 4, green 2.

Try it.

Knotlob · #23 (**permalink**) 08-17-2010, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Nursenancy

Yup all those laws of genetics and stuff.

Here's an interesting site if you want to know what color eyes your children will have according to the laws of genetics. You plug in your eye color and your mate's eye color--and you can also input your parents' and your in-laws' eye color--to give you a prediction of your children's eye color.

http://museum.thetech.org/ugenetics/eyeCalc/eyecalculator.html

Here's the score from when I tried it. I have brown eyes. My fictional mate has blue eyes. Result: of our projected six children, three will have brown eyes, two will have blue eyes and one will have green eyes.

Just out of curiosity, I clicked "calculate" again, and it changed. Now we have five blue eyed children and one brown eyed.

*Click*

Now the score is brown 4, green 2.

Try it.

Thanks Nursenancy

Interesting site.

knotlob

Georgiaonmymind · #24 (**permalink**) 11-01-2010, 05:00 PM

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Thanks Nursenancy

Interesting site.

knotlob

Do you have an explanation as to why the numbers change every time you click "calculate"?

Knotlob · #25 (**permalink**) 11-01-2010, 07:10 PM

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Do you have an explanation as to why the numbers change every time you click "calculate"?

Without seeing the maths behind the calculation I wouldn't know. However, it seems to be a probability calculation of off springs eye colour - not a guaranteed colour determination. A bit like rolling a dice I guess.

knotlob

ElizabethSydey · #26 (**permalink**) 11-02-2010, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Knotlob

Without seeing the maths behind the calculation I wouldn't know. However, it seems to be a probability calculation of off springs eye colour - not a guaranteed colour determination. A bit like rolling a dice I guess.

knotlob

Georgiaonmymind asked a good question.

How can you build a website that calculates on "rolling the dice"? Something has to happen when you click that "calculate" button, right? Do the probabilities change just by clicking the button again? You have the same exact input, so why should the result change?

Knotlob · #27 (**permalink**) 11-02-2010, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ElizabethSydey

Georgiaonmymind asked a good question.

How can you build a website that calculates on "rolling the dice"? Something has to happen when you click that "calculate" button, right? Do the probabilities change just by clicking the button again? You have the same exact input, so why should the result change?

It is easy to programme in a random number generator (between 0 and 1) into calculations. Spreadsheets like Excel, etc. have this function also. As already stated, the calculation is not exact, but is based on probabilities, which means there is an element of randomness inherent in the system.

knotlob

Klingons4Peace · #28 (**permalink**) 11-02-2010, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by thisandthat

To follow this up I asked her about it this afternoon, and she spazed at me that she thinks I have doubts about her eyes which was just weird and a little overboard but also told me she wears normal contacts sometimes when she is in the sun or if her eyes get sore from looking at things in the far distance, and that she wore them the last couple days.

And then she went off saying she doesn't have to tell me everything which is fine, just thought it is a bit strange that she mentions everything but neglects to tell me ever that she uses contacts sometimes and I have never seen them. Anyways the question I posted on here was mostly about the ridges and I've got to the bottom of it that the are contacts. Whether that is the full story or not is yet to be decided but for now I just leave it alone and have fun.

Maybe if one day I get a close picture that is good quality ill put it up but for now I should just believe her as strange as it all is.

Have a good weekend everyone!

It's been a few months since we've heard from you in this thread, thisandthat. I hope you've made peace with your girlfriend. Like others have said before me, don't obsess about the contact lens thing. Enjoy her smile, her hair, her sense of humor, all the other things you like about her. If you're concerned about her honesty, maybe she really is wearing colored contacts and was going to tell you, but since you're obsessing about it, now she's not comfortable about being honest with you.

Take it from a guy who's been single for over forty years

she's got to feel like she can trust you, and how can she do that if you keep saying "You told me repeatedly that you're not wearing colored contacts, but I still don't believe you, now tell me the truth"?

I wish you well and I hope you can work this all out.

MaryTamm2 · #29 (**permalink**) 11-09-2010, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Klingons4Peace

It's been a few months since we've heard from you in this thread, thisandthat. I hope you've made peace with your girlfriend. Like others have said before me, don't obsess about the contact lens thing. Enjoy her smile, her hair, her sense of humor, all the other things you like about her. If you're concerned about her honesty, maybe she really is wearing colored contacts and was going to tell you, but since you're obsessing about it, now she's not comfortable about being honest with you.

Take it from a guy who's been single for over forty years

she's got to feel like she can trust you, and how can she do that if you keep saying "You told me repeatedly that you're not wearing colored contacts, but I still don't believe you, now tell me the truth"?

I wish you well and I hope you can work this all out.

That sounds like pretty good relationship advice . . . for a Klingon.

yournamehere · #30 (**permalink**) 11-10-2010, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MaryTamm2

That sounds like pretty good relationship advice . . . for a Klingon.

Oh, `cause . . . the person calls themselves "Klingonds4Peace" and Klingons are not known for their warm, caring relationships. Got it.

Aaaaassgh!

You would not BELIEVE how hard it is to find a picture of a couple of Klingons not getting along! Mostly dweebs dressed as Klingons looking at the camera! This was the best I could do.

Honestly, the things I do for a chuckle on this forum . . .

Nichobec · #31 (**permalink**) 12-10-2010, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by yournamehere

Oh, `cause . . . the person calls themselves "Klingonds4Peace" and Klingons are not known for their warm, caring relationships. Got it.

Aaaaassgh!

You would not BELIEVE how hard it is to find a picture of a couple of Klingons not getting along! Mostly dweebs dressed as Klingons looking at the camera! This was the best I could do.

Honestly, the things I do for a chuckle on this forum . . .

You may have gotten some unintentional giggles over the way you spelled "Aaaaarrgh!"

Deevine1217 · #32 (**permalink**) 12-10-2010, 01:03 PM

For those of you wondering, each individual gets a gene from every parent. Brown is the dominant gene (B) and blue is the recessive (b). For someone to have blue eyes they must have the gene combo bb. For someone to have brown eyes they must have the gene combo BB, bB or Bb.

If 2 people with blue eyes were to have kids, they automatically will have a child with blue eyes since all the gene combos from both parents result in bb. If a brown eyed parent and a blue eyed parent were to have kids these are the combos:
BB + bb = Bb, Bb, bB, bB (aka always brown eyes)
Bb + bb = Bb, Bb, bb, bb (50/50 chance)
You can also have parents who both have brown eyes with children who have blue eyes:
Bb + Bb = BB, Bb, bB, bb (1/4 chances)

Hope that helps

Also, to the original poster, did she move around her eyes when you asked her to prove that her iris doesn't budge? I highly doubt she sleeps in colored contacts (terrible) so she most likely has natural blue eyes.

Knotlob · #33 (**permalink**) 12-10-2010, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Deevine1217

For those of you wondering, each individual gets a gene from every parent. Brown is the dominant gene (B) and blue is the recessive (b). For someone to have blue eyes they must have the gene combo bb. For someone to have brown eyes they must have the gene combo BB, bB or Bb.

If 2 people with blue eyes were to have kids, they automatically will have a child with blue eyes since all the gene combos from both parents result in bb. If a brown eyed parent and a blue eyed parent were to have kids these are the combos:
BB + bb = Bb, Bb, bB, bB (aka always brown eyes)
Bb + bb = Bb, Bb, bb, bb (50/50 chance)
You can also have parents who both have brown eyes with children who have blue eyes:
Bb + Bb = BB, Bb, bB, bb (1/4 chances)

Hope that helps

Also, to the original poster, did she move around her eyes when you asked her to prove that her iris doesn't budge? I highly doubt she sleeps in colored contacts (terrible) so she most likely has natural blue eyes.

In the event, she actually was wearing coloured contact lenses.

knotlob

Deevine1217 · #34 (**permalink**) 12-10-2010, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Knotlob

In the event, she actually was wearing coloured contact lenses.

knotlob

From what I understood in his post, she said she only wears clear contacts.

Knotlob · #35 (**permalink**) 12-10-2010, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Deevine1217

From what I understood in his post, she said she only wears clear contacts.

I understand she was economical with the truth, but eventually did admit she wore coloured lenses.

knotlob

Ordersixtysix · #36 (**permalink**) 12-13-2010, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Knotlob

Hello thisandthat

Well that confirms one of my later theories! Anyway, sounds sensible. Sometimes people are a bit strange (from another's view point). Maybe she didn't want to tell you about contacts because she is myopic/short sighted and she's worried that she will have to wear glasses and you won't want to go out with her again!

Strange but my wife was terrified that she may get varicose veins and didn't want to tell me for similar reasons, before we got married, etc. As if there weren't more important issues in life to worry about!

Anyway, best leave it for a while and trust your girl friend, since you have a seemingly very close relationship (apart from the contacts issue).

I wish you well together.

knotlob

Maybe there's a future for you in relationship counseling, knotlob.

Knotlob · #37 (**permalink**) 12-13-2010, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ordersixtysix

Maybe there's a future for you in relationship counseling, knotlob.

I don't know if it worked in this case though. I must make some discreet enquiries!

knotlob

Eyeofharmony · #38 (**permalink**) 12-13-2010, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Knotlob

I don't know if it worked in this case though. I must make some discreet enquiries!

knotlob

I hope this entire thread has been helpful to thisandthat. I hope that he and his girlfriend were able to talk this through, or maybe they broke up and it's better for both of them. I hope that's not the case, but I think we've all been in relationships that clearly were a bad idea in retrospect.