Your Only Fooling Yourselves Opaque Lovers...

#1 (**permalink**) 01-14-2010, 03:05 AM

I'm not judging anyone or trying to start an argument but to all the members of this forum who wear opaque lenses to completely change your eye colour I only have one thing to say to you. You are only fooling yourselves. It doesn't matter how much you spend on a pair of contacts, whether it be $40 or $400. Whether you buy Soloticas or hand-painted lenses from Israel everyone knows your hiding behind a veil and the most important person who knows this is you. Our eyes are windows into our souls and when you change your GOD given eyes you are hiding your true self from others and decieving people. Some of you say: "I wear the lenses because I love that colour." but thats not the true reason is it? Thats not the reason you invest a small fortune into contacts every year is it? You do this because deep down you dislike yourselves for whatever reasons. My advice, love yourself for you. Allah (SWT) loves you, the creator of everything loves you for you so why wouldn't everyone else love you for you too? The designer of all designers gave you your eyes and made them especially for you. Like fingerprints no one eye is the same our GOD given eyes are a very special gift like our immortal souls. There is a reason GOD gave us the eyes he did afterall Allah (SWT) knows best. Your natural eyes match everything about you perfectly in everyway. Love yourself so others can love you as much as your creator does. Be yourself and don't be fake. Salam...

papersamus · #2 (**permalink**) 01-22-2010, 06:16 PM

This is why I don't like religion... *Rolls fake eyes*

Knotlob · #3 (**permalink**) 01-22-2010, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlieSS

I'm not judging anyone or trying to start an argument but to all the members of this forum who wear opaque lenses to completely change your eye colour I only have one thing to say to you. You are only fooling yourselves. It doesn't matter how much you spend on a pair of contacts, whether it be $40 or $400. Whether you buy Soloticas or hand-painted lenses from Israel everyone knows your hiding behind a veil and the most important person who knows this is you. Our eyes are windows into our souls and when you change your GOD given eyes you are hiding your true self from others and decieving people. Some of you say: "I wear the lenses because I love that colour." but thats not the true reason is it? Thats not the reason you invest a small fortune into contacts every year is it? You do this because deep down you dislike yourselves for whatever reasons. My advice, love yourself for you. Allah (SWT) loves you, the creator of everything loves you for you so why wouldn't everyone else love you for you too? The designer of all designers gave you your eyes and made them especially for you. Like fingerprints no one eye is the same our GOD given eyes are a very special gift like our immortal souls. There is a reason GOD gave us the eyes he did afterall Allah (SWT) knows best. Your natural eyes match everything about you perfectly in everyway. Love yourself so others can love you as much as your creator does. Be yourself and don't be fake. Salam...

I think we already had this rant a few days ago.

What's with all this 'God given' stuff anyway? Not everybody subscribes to the Intelligent Design theory.

knotlob

hotpepperking · #4 (**permalink**) 02-26-2010, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Knotlob

I think we already had this rant a few days ago.

What's with all this 'God given' stuff anyway? Not everybody subscribes to the Intelligent Design theory.

knotlob

That's true, Knotlob. I kinda lean in that direction, but this is not the place for such proselytizing. There are a ton of other websites for that.

Knotlob · #5 (**permalink**) 02-26-2010, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by hotpepperking

That's true, Knotlob. I kinda lean in that direction, but this is not the place for such proselytizing. There are a ton of other websites for that.

Hi hotpepperking

Yes, indeed. I am certainly not going to entertain a discussion on religion either and would be happier if CharlieSS could make his points without the religious overtones.

knotlob

#6 (**permalink**) 02-26-2010, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Knotlob

Hi hotpepperking

Yes, indeed. I am certainly not going to entertain a discussion on religion either and would be happier if CharlieSS could make his points without the religious overtones.

knotlob

The only reason any of you care that this post had a religious overtone was because I mentioned God as Allah (SWT) and you put two and two together to come to the conclusion that I am a Muslim. I stand by my post because what I said came from the heart and I only mentioned Allah once or twice so in reality its not the religious, fundamentalist rant you make it out to be, in fact if it were a rant its pretty short at less than a paragraph wouldn't you say? I find it funny that how offended and pist off people get when someone gives an opinion that differs from the rest. If you don't believe in God or a creator thats cool but don't attack someone or belittle them because they do, this is very typical of atheists because you use human logic to explain things that even science (human logic personified) can't explain and deny even the remote possibility that anything outside of your own logic could possibly be reality. Doesn't this world at times seem like the creation of someone elses reality or consciousness? Maybee instead of denying something consider it a possibility and don't be so damn narcassistic. God isn't necessarily a guy on a big chair, God could be a huge mass of energy with a conscious. I used Allah instead of God to see if their were any other Muslim members of this site to chat with, nothing malevolent in that is there? Lighten up for God's, woops I mean lighten up for natures sake.

Knotlob · #7 (**permalink**) 02-27-2010, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CharlieSS

The only reason any of you care that this post had a religious overtone was because I mentioned God as Allah (SWT) and you put two and two together to come to the conclusion that I am a Muslim. I stand by my post because what I said came from the heart and I only mentioned Allah once or twice so in reality its not the religious, fundamentalist rant you make it out to be, in fact if it were a rant its pretty short at less than a paragraph wouldn't you say? I find it funny that how offended and pist off people get when someone gives an opinion that differs from the rest. If you don't believe in God or a creator thats cool but don't attack someone or belittle them because they do, this is very typical of atheists because you use human logic to explain things that even science (human logic personified) can't explain and deny even the remote possibility that anything outside of your own logic could possibly be reality. Doesn't this world at times seem like the creation of someone elses reality or consciousness? Maybee instead of denying something consider it a possibility and don't be so damn narcassistic. God isn't necessarily a guy on a big chair, God could be a huge mass of energy with a conscious. I used Allah instead of God to see if their were any other Muslim members of this site to chat with, nothing malevolent in that is there? Lighten up for God's, woops I mean lighten up for natures sake.

What complete and utter rubbish! I draw no conclusions as to your religion and in truth I couldn't give a monkey's. I don't like having religion rammed down my throat by those who are believers. Simple.

knotlob

#8 (**permalink**) 02-27-2010, 12:25 PM

Knotlob (and everyone else),

Charlie is a fake. Even he does not believe what he posts. He is here simply for "fun". His whole intention is to insite controversy on whatever subject he feels will get the most attention and feed-back. If you step back away from it, it becomes clearer and clearer.

Shame on you Charlie with the brown eyes.

Knotlob · #9 (**permalink**) 02-27-2010, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by catt

Knotlob (and everyone else),

Charlie is a fake. Even he does not believe what he posts. He is here simply for "fun". His whole intention is to insite controversy on whatever subject he feels will get the most attention and feed-back. If you step back away from it, it becomes clearer and clearer.

Shame on you Charlie with the brown eyes.

Yes, we shouldn't feed the trolls, but he has declared his intention to close his account.

knotlob

#10 (**permalink**) 02-27-2010, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by catt

Knotlob (and everyone else),

Charlie is a fake. Even he does not believe what he posts. He is here simply for "fun". His whole intention is to insite controversy on whatever subject he feels will get the most attention and feed-back. If you step back away from it, it becomes clearer and clearer.

Shame on you Charlie with the brown eyes.

Catt I'd like to say one last thing to you. Your username perfectly describes the way you look with those bloody opaques, lol. Shame on you and that German Fascist Knotlob. Instead of "double teaming" me you should get a room, clearly you have a thing for one anothers gorgeous fake eyes. I love my brown eyes and I'm not ashamed of them as you are. Do you wear your S.S. uniform to dinner too herr oberst Knotlob? Charlie signing off for good!!!

PS: Mods wont answer my emails, best thing to do would be report me to a mod yourself and have them delete my profile. Refuse to waste further time on such a pathetic forum.

Knotlob · #11 (**permalink**) 02-27-2010, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlieSS

Catt I'd like to say one last thing to you. Your username perfectly describes the way you look with those bloody opaques, lol. Shame on you and that German Fascist Knotlob. Instead of "double teaming" me you should get a room, clearly you have a thing for one anothers gorgeous fake eyes. I love my brown eyes and I'm not ashamed of them as you are. Do you wear your S.S. uniform to dinner too herr oberst Knotlob? Charlie signing off for good!!!

PS: Mods wont answer my emails, best thing to do would be report me to a mod yourself and have them delete my profile. Refuse to waste further time on such a pathetic forum.

Well CharlieSS, for your information, you are once again hopelessly misinformed. Just because I live in Germany does not mean that I am German. Goodbye.

knotlob

hotpepperking · #12 (**permalink**) 04-07-2010, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by CharlieSS

Catt I'd like to say one last thing to you. Your username perfectly describes the way you look with those bloody opaques, lol. Shame on you and that German Fascist Knotlob. Instead of "double teaming" me you should get a room, clearly you have a thing for one anothers gorgeous fake eyes. I love my brown eyes and I'm not ashamed of them as you are. Do you wear your S.S. uniform to dinner too herr oberst Knotlob? Charlie signing off for good!!!

You can talk, Charlie . . . SS . . .

#13 (**permalink**) 04-07-2010, 11:35 AM

Hey Hotpepperking,

That's part of the logo for the band Kiss. Works better for them than Adolph, ya know?

esnutaliah · #14 (**permalink**) 05-13-2010, 12:10 AM

holy mother! how about hating your dad and not wanting to look in the mirror and see his eyes that you were born with, huh! There are many reasons people wear contacts.

VAB · #15 (**permalink**) 05-13-2010, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by esnutaliah

holy mother! how about hating your dad and not wanting to look in the mirror and see his eyes that you were born with, huh! There are many reasons people wear contacts.

Paging Doctor Freud. Doctor Freud to the forum, stat.

lizzypoo · #16 (**permalink**) 05-26-2010, 03:36 PM

I find this thread funny because God didn't make us with clothes on, so why wear clothes?.

nakedeyes · #17 (**permalink**) 05-26-2010, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by lizzypoo

I find this thread funny because God didn't make us with clothes on, so why wear clothes?.

This is a really weird thread for many reasons. As VAB hinted at, CharlieSS may need some . . . help.

hotpepperking · #18 (**permalink**) 06-11-2010, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by nakedeyes

This is a really weird thread for many reasons. As VAB hinted at, CharlieSS may need some . . . help.

Okay, I think Charlie's gone.
Now . . . let's have a calm, rational discussion.

Did his original "point" about people hiding behind contact lenses hold any truth for you? If you were really, really honest with yourself (and your pals at Lens 101), could you say that there's some element of "hiding" when you wear color contacts? Let me ask you this--would you freak out if someone saw you without your contacts in place? If you think you would, you might just be hiding. What do you think?

Knotlob · #19 (**permalink**) 06-11-2010, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by hotpepperking

Okay, I think Charlie's gone.
Now . . . let's have a calm, rational discussion.

Did his original "point" about people hiding behind contact lenses hold any truth for you? If you were really, really honest with yourself (and your pals at Lens 101), could you say that there's some element of "hiding" when you wear color contacts? Let me ask you this--would you freak out if someone saw you without your contacts in place? If you think you would, you might just be hiding. What do you think?

I think his claim (which, if he was genuine and not a troll, could have made rather more diplomatically) was that viewed side on, the opaque lenses looked artificial, because the colour is on top of the cornea and not behind the cornea. Catt asked him to further explain his statement, but that got lost in the vitriol.

Personally I have no idea if that is true, as I don't wear coloured lenses and I don't know anyone here in Germany who actually wears them. My wife, many, many years ago tried blue coloured lenses on blue eyes, but they were not opaque and I really didn't notice the difference.

Of course all the pictures you see posted here and by the contact lens manufacturers show the eyes front on and not side on, so it's difficult to see if CharlieSS's iguana look if in fact real.

Charlie SS, I think, did also voice an opinion that people shouldn't wear coloured lenses, but people wear coloured lenses for lots of different and harmless reasons.

knotlob

VAB · #20 (**permalink**) 07-14-2010, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by catt

Knotlob (and everyone else),

Charlie is a fake. Even he does not believe what he posts. He is here simply for "fun". His whole intention is to insite controversy on whatever subject he feels will get the most attention and feed-back. If you step back away from it, it becomes clearer and clearer.

Shame on you Charlie with the brown eyes.

Ironically, the very first thing Charlie said was "I'm not judging anyone or trying to start an argument."

Blue Cat · #21 (**permalink**) 07-15-2010, 08:39 AM

I have two responses to CharlieSS:

1. It's not so much "hiding" as it is "roll playing". Yes, I do feel that there is some level of "deception", and I think the symbolism would be apt as a literary device. However, that doesn't mean that I or anyone else here is actively trying to "deceive". I think of wearing opaques as playing dress-ups. It's fun and a bit theatrical. That's it. When I went to a job interview recently, I very consciously did NOT wear my lenses though, because I do agree that it could be perceived as "hiding" or obfuscating. It could convey, at least subliminally, a level of dishonesty. So, I choose when to "play" and when to go "au naturel". It's fun to have the option.

2. In response to the whole "God creating our eye color" spiel (which turns into "yada yada yada" in my mind), I say, this God you speak of must have also created our intelligence, our capabilities and our creativity. Therefore, man's creation of opaque colored contacts is merely an extension of God's will. I could just as well argue that, in fact, God intended for us to wear colored contacts. We are merely being obedient subjects.

eyecaramba · #22 (**permalink**) 07-15-2010, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue Cat

I have two responses to CharlieSS:

1. It's not so much "hiding" as it is "roll playing". Yes, I do feel that there is some level of "deception", and I think the symbolism would be apt as a literary device. However, that doesn't mean that I or anyone else here is actively trying to "deceive". I think of wearing opaques as playing dress-ups. It's fun and a bit theatrical. That's it. When I went to a job interview recently, I very consciously did NOT wear my lenses though, because I do agree that it could be perceived as "hiding" or obfuscating. It could convey, at least subliminally, a level of dishonesty. So, I choose when to "play" and when to go "au naturel". It's fun to have the option.

2. In response to the whole "God creating our eye color" spiel (which turns into "yada yada yada" in my mind), I say, this God you speak of must have also created our intelligence, our capabilities and our creativity. Therefore, man's creation of opaque colored contacts is merely an extension of God's will. I could just as well argue that, in fact, God intended for us to wear colored contacts. We are merely being obedient subjects.

Excellent post, Blue Cat. Your careful reasoning is in sharp contrast to the ravings that started this post.

I agree that wearing colored contacts can be fun, like playing "dress-up." I'm glad you said that you don't wear them on job interviews. That's an excellent point.

Congratulations are in order. This thread is the first instance of someone using the word "obfuscating." I checked.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go look it up. Be right back.

Here it is:

ob·fus·cate
[ob-fuh-skeyt, ob-fuhs-keyt]

–verb (used with object), -cat·ed, -cat·ing.
1. to confuse, bewilder, or stupefy.
2. to make obscure or unclear: to obfuscate a problem with extraneous information.
3. to darken.

Now as for what God thinks of colored contact lenses, I happen to be a firm believer in God, and without getting preachy, I don't think He minds the colored contacts so much. In the book of Esther, a beauty contest is held for the king and a decree goes out: “Let beautiful young virgins be sought for the king . . . and let beauty preparations be given." There is nothing in the story to suggest that God was displeased with the use of "beauty preparations."

I could say more, but this is not the place. So let's agree that contact lenses can make people feel attractive, they're not "deceptive" unless you try to convince someone that you're not wearing them, (Which is a double deception: "I'm not wearing contact lenses", and "this is my true eye color.") and it's difficult to condemn the use of colored contact lenses on Biblical grounds.

Englishteacher1 · #23 (**permalink**) 07-16-2010, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by eyecaramba

Excellent post, Blue Cat. Your careful reasoning is in sharp contrast to the ravings that started this post.

I agree that wearing colored contacts can be fun, like playing "dress-up." I'm glad you said that you don't wear them on job interviews. That's an excellent point.

Congratulations are in order. This thread is the first instance of someone using the word "obfuscating." I checked.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go look it up. Be right back.

Here it is:

ob·fus·cate
[ob-fuh-skeyt, ob-fuhs-keyt]

–verb (used with object), -cat·ed, -cat·ing.
1. to confuse, bewilder, or stupefy.
2. to make obscure or unclear: to obfuscate a problem with extraneous information.
3. to darken.

Now as for what God thinks of colored contact lenses, I happen to be a firm believer in God, and without getting preachy, I don't think He minds the colored contacts so much. In the book of Esther, a beauty contest is held for the king and a decree goes out: “Let beautiful young virgins be sought for the king . . . and let beauty preparations be given." There is nothing in the story to suggest that God was displeased with the use of "beauty preparations."

I could say more, but this is not the place. So let's agree that contact lenses can make people feel attractive, they're not "deceptive" unless you try to convince someone that you're not wearing them, (Which is a double deception: "I'm not wearing contact lenses", and "this is my true eye color.") and it's difficult to condemn the use of colored contact lenses on Biblical grounds.

Thanks for that thoughtful analysis, eyecaramba. What you say makes a lot of sense.

mema · #24 (**permalink**) 07-16-2010, 04:43 PM

W3likom Salam just in case you're legit.

Anyways, I'm pretty sure you're a troll because of the Nazi overtones in your username so I know I'm not supposed to feed into this but I am a Muslim and this pretty much ticks me off. I'd like it if you weren't going out of your way to inconvenience us any more.

That being said, I would like to point out that Islam is a religion of intentions. Most contact lens wearers wear them because they think it looks good (which is a sunnah btw...). I have never met anyone put in a pair of any lenses, no matter how natural and say, "LOL GAIZ EVERY1 I NOE IS GUNNA THINK MA EYES TURNED GREEN IN DA MIDDLE OF DA NITE!"

That being said, I just did some research. Colored contacts aren't 7araam. At the most they'd be makrooh but since that isn't a sin then I guess we have nothing to worry about right?

And I see no point in pushing the Islamic validity on a secular forum. Most Muslims leave the religious internet tirades to the Neo-Cons.

Anyways, have a good one, Troll.

M3assalama

Knotlob · #25 (**permalink**) 07-16-2010, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mema

W3likom Salam just in case you're legit.

Anyways, I'm pretty sure you're a troll because of the Nazi overtones in your username so I know I'm not supposed to feed into this but I am a Muslim and this pretty much ticks me off. I'd like it if you weren't going out of your way to inconvenience us any more.

That being said, I would like to point out that Islam is a religion of intentions. Most contact lens wearers wear them because they think it looks good (which is a sunnah btw...). I have never met anyone put in a pair of any lenses, no matter how natural and say, "LOL GAIZ EVERY1 I NOE IS GUNNA THINK MA EYES TURNED GREEN IN DA MIDDLE OF DA NITE!"

That being said, I just did some research. Colored contacts aren't 7araam. At the most they'd be makrooh but since that isn't a sin then I guess we have nothing to worry about right?

And I see no point in pushing the Islamic validity on a secular forum. Most Muslims leave the religious internet tirades to the Neo-Cons.

Anyways, have a good one, Troll.

M3assalama

CharlieSS is no longer listed as a member. He could have rejoined under another ID, but we haven't seen anyone who matches his previous persona.

knotlob

Ragnarox · #26 (**permalink**) 07-19-2010, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Knotlob

CharlieSS is no longer listed as a member. He could have rejoined under another ID, but we haven't seen anyone who matches his previous persona.

knotlob

Yeah, I think we're safe.

Englishteacher1 · #27 (**permalink**) 08-27-2010, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ragnarox

Yeah, I think we're safe.

Good. I saw the title of this thread and thought of all the commotion here, I'm glad things have settled down. What a relief.

miroma · #28 (**permalink**) 08-31-2010, 07:24 AM

LOL, this is too funny! Some people have actually so much time on their hands that they go around making and remaking id's in forums to do this sort of stuff! is too sad really!

Suppose thats what people on income support do as they have nothing else to do all day lang!

thecure · #29 (**permalink**) 08-31-2010, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by miroma

LOL, this is too funny! Some people have actually so much time on their hands that they go around making and remaking id's in forums to do this sort of stuff! is too sad really!

Suppose thats what people on income support do as they have nothing else to do all day lang!

Hey now. You know nothing about anyone's "income support" on this site. Let's rise above the muck, shall we?