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    Default Ciba Vision's daily silicone lens: Dailies Total 1

    Experience a new era of contact lenses. The new DAILIES Total1 - the first silicone hydrogel contact lens with Water Gradient. DAILIES TOTAL1 are developed with a surface moisture content of about 80%. This corresponds approximately to the water content at the surface of the eye, which rests on the contact lens. The material in the core of the contact lens contains only 33% water and is particularly oxygen permeable. DAILIES TOTAL 1 provides an exceptionally comfortable fit to the end of the day.

    BENEFITS of the latest daily contact lens DAILIES TOTAL1:
    - over 80% water on the surface. This corresponds approximately to the water content at the surface of the eye, on which the contact lens rests
    - the highest oxygen permeability of all one-day Contact lenses.
    - for an exceptionally comfortable fit to the end of the day
    - every day a fresh new pair
    - player no cleaning or disinfecting

    DAILIES TOTAL1 is particularly suitable for new lens wearers who want contact lenses to provide the highest standards in the comfort of contact lenses and wear the contact lenses every day. DAILIES TOTAL 1 is best of all the one-day oxygen-permeable contact lenses. The highly oxygen-permeable contact lenses from Ciba Vision DAILIES Total1 (Delefilcon A) Contact Lenses: Dk/t = 156 at power of -3.00.

    Material Delefilcon A
    Curvature: 8.5
    Diameter: 14.10 mm
    Surface Water content: > 80%
    Inside Water content: 33%
    Dk/t: 156 @-3.00D



    I wonder when it will be available in US.

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    Default Dailies Total 1

    These lenses are already available in the US and the UK. From what I have read online, the lenses are supposed to be very comfortable almost as if nothing is in the eye at all.

    It has been referred to as a game changer.

    They are not yet available where I am based so I cannot comment but it looks promising.

    Perhaps the forum moderators should make a separate forum for this brand as it does not yet have one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by irish View Post
    These lenses are already available in the US and the UK. From what I have read online, the lenses are supposed to be very comfortable almost as if nothing is in the eye at all.

    It has been referred to as a game changer.

    They are not yet available where I am based so I cannot comment but it looks promising.

    Perhaps the forum moderators should make a separate forum for this brand as it does not yet have one?
    Not to be a party pooper...but despite the high water content, Im still hesitant in recommending them to patients with dry eyes.
    Aparantly the material retains water content even after a full days wear. Proclear is another good example of this 'TYPE" of material and even they can be challenging on a dry eye.

    But im happy to see more silicone hydrogel one days coming to market. The Sauflon company makes a great silicone hydrogel one day but only available in europe and asia.

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    My experience so far: I've been wearing Oasys for a number of years with relatively little problems but have always felt that the silicone lenses have irritated my eyes slightly vs my prior Acuvue 2s. Initial comfort of the Oasys is better but they seem to bother me more as the day goes on and getting older hasn't helped.

    I'm now trialing both Dailies Aquacomfort Plus and Total1's, switching back and forth. So far, I think the non silicone material in the Aqua's agree with my eyes more and they are pretty comfortable - but I have to say the total1's are initially very comfortable.

    I wore the aqua's 15 hours yesterday and while they got a little drier towards the end of the day they were still comfortable. Last time I wore Total1's they did get a little dry towards the end of the day.

    I've had some quality control issues with the aqua's, a couple lens felt very uncomfortable and I was ready to just write them off. Yesterday's pair, however, changed my mind. Very comfortable. Optical clarity seems better with the aquas for me.

    I will update this board but as of right now I'm having a hard time justifying the significant price difference for Total1's vs the aqua's. I know the dk/t value is much higher on the new lens so I'd hate to give that up but I'm not sold on them yet.

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    Thanks for your reply, rfreda.

    It is always interesting to hear others experiences, so please keep us posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luvbostonxo2's View Post
    But im happy to see more silicone hydrogel one days coming to market. The Sauflon company makes a great silicone hydrogel one day but only available in europe and asia.
    Are you referring to Sauflon Clariti?

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    Update: Wore the total1's for about 15 hours yesterday and they stayed pretty comfortable the whole day but here's a big issue I've noticed - my intermediate to close vision is terrible in these lens. It's not just presbyopia, which I am experiencing since I'm 46. I've trialed different lenses with my -4.50 rx and I don't have the clarity issue with all of them.

    Biofinity's were crisp but the material did not agree with my eyes, the aquas are clear, my prior Oasys were not that great and was one reason to start trialing others, but the total1's are the worst. I can't see anything close up while with other lens and my glasses I don't even need readers in most situations.

    I read comments on the net from others experiencing the same thing and the resident ECP on a board said it was overcorrection. I don't think that's the case.

    luvboston, you seem to be the resident expert, would like to hear your opinion. As of now I would just go with the aquacomforts but they have low dk/t. Also considering using Oasys again but change to weekly modality - it's still cheaper than the ridiculous total1 price.

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    From what I have heard, this new lens is amazing! Patient feedback has been insanely positive!

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    Cool Patient Feed back says GIMME MORE!

    @contactlensking

    I mean its brand new technology of course its not for everyone, but the majority rules and they all want more! Who actually wakes up and looks forward to wearing their contact lenes? Total Daily 1 wearers thats who.

    Just saying when the IPHONE first came out im sure people said "eh its not for everyone"

    Its all relative.

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    I tried the Total1's after going through about every daily out there. I have mildly dry/sensitive eyes, so I am always trying to find the one that minimizes the end-of-day-scratchiness. I thought the Total1's were the most comfortable lens I ever wore. I had very little irritation, if any, by the end of the day. However, I experienced some of what I would call "ghosting" (hazy spots floating around). I have a little ghosting with other contacts, but not to the degree I experienced with the Totals. The eye-doc thought it was probably how my personal tear film reacted with the lens, as it was clear my vision was a bit hindered but others were not having similar issues.

    The ghosting combined with the very high cost drove me to pick the BioTrues after trying those as well. The BioTrue's are not quite as comfortable as the Totals but are far better than other dailies I have worn (and about the same cost as 'regular' dailies).

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    blove,

    I was having some pretty bad allergy symptoms as I trialed new lenses, so I gave it a rest for a while. I noticed during the allergy period that the Acuvue Moist were the ones I could tolerate the most.

    Now that all has calmed down now and my eyes feel normal, the Moist are still the most comfortable, all day, and that's what I bought. I tried the bio-trues and they are very thick lenses. they are easier to handle and seem very durable, but for a daily durability doesn't mean much to me. I'm glad they've worked for you.

    I still have samples of the total1 and aquacomfort plus dailies that I throw in every once in a while, and they still irritate my eyes as the day goes on. I came from Oasys that used to bother me by end of day, especially after wearing a pair for a week. Not so with a new pair of Moist everyday. Comfortable and great vision.

    Just goes to show you everyone's reaction to lenses is different. I would put either of the dailies products or bio-true in and my eyes were irritated, telling me there was a foreign body it was trying to fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blove View Post
    The ghosting combined with the very high cost drove me to pick the BioTrues after trying those as well. The BioTrue's are not quite as comfortable as the Totals but are far better than other dailies I have worn (and about the same cost as 'regular' dailies).
    Our Fresh daily disposables have similar properties to those of BioTrue, notably biocompatibility, and might be another option for you, should you choose to look for a new lens in the future. A lot of patients who struggle to find a lens that works for them are able to wear our Fresh with minimal complications. Anyway, just a thought.

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    These are wonderful for me, the first time I've been able to wear contacts without irritation. They are sooo comfortable I can't believe it. My near vision is awful on them though. My near vision is normally perfect and now I have to use reading glasses with these contacts. It's annoying but worth imo.

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    Also, my eye doctor said it was ok to reuse and clean them for a few days before tossing. I'm probably going to do this fairy often as they are a bit pricey.

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    I just tried these for a week, my doc was able to get me some trials. I gotta say, these are hands down the most comfortable lenses I've worn.

    (And I've used the Acuvue Moist, Tru Eye, Proclear, Biotrue, Ciba Dailies Aqua)

    They do tend to be a tad watery/blurry when I first put them in (just like the Tru Eye), but I haven't noticed any vision problems aside from that. But wow, $95 for 90 box? hmmmm.... lol Might just get glasses alongside these maybe.

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    I haven't worn contact for awhile and when I was quoted the price I thought they meant 90 pairs. So yeah, they are really expensive, that's why I'm trying to get 2 or 3 days out of them. I'm going to alternate with glasses bc of the cost too. Hope they show up online soon, I paid $110 at my optical place.

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    I am trying those. This is my first day in them
    My Bc is 8.6 and 8.8 an di hope I cand wear these 8.5 BC....

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    I tried them. They are very good for 4 hours , after that my eyes are sore , also after i remove them my eye get super dry and painfull -_-

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    That's too bad they didn't work for you. The last time I wore contacts I wore the Acuvue Oasys and while they were comfortable I could never forget I was wearing contacts like I do wearing these. The biggest problem is just how pricey they are, but I'm thinking they'll come down in price after they've been on the market a bit.

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    Oasys will damage your eye in time due to heavy lipid atraction and wetting agent...
    Use monthly Biofinity which is newer generation silicone Hydrogel.

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    Hey all, new to the forum here, looking forward to learning from everyone.

    I was a Bioinfinity user for many years until recently my eyes became somewhat intolerant to them (and I suppose contact lenses in general). I am in the process of being tested for Sjogrens disease.

    However, I have had some recent success using this new CIBA product. My only real complaint with them, other than minor dry/sore eye towards the end of the day (which I feel is inevitable with any lens at the moment), was a scratchy feeling on certain days, almost as if it is inside out.

    I am wondering if it is possible that I am putting them in inside out on some days? The reason I believe this may be the case, is that on some days I've even taken the contact lens out that is bothering me, thrown it in the garbage and put a new one in, with significantly less discomfort.

    I've been a contact lens wearer for 16 years now ( I'm 25 now ), and have never had any issue being able to tell which way is not inside out. However with these Dailies Total's 1's, it often seems like a guessing game. I use the typical visual method, of seeing if the edges flare out or not, but both looking pretty darn round. The pinching test hasn't been any more succesful.

    To summarize, are there any tips for making sure I'm putting these in correctly? Or is it more likely that my eyes are the issue and not the lenses themselves?

    All this aside, I can honestly say that Ciba's new product is the first lens in a year or so that I can wear without a terrible burning pain a few hours in.

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    I have had Total 1 for over a month now, and pretty happy with it. I switched to Dailies last year and used Trueye for about a year. I was generally happy about it but my gets very dry after taking the lens out and it was always a disaster when I accidentally sleep w/ it even just for a nap.

    Had a high expectation on Total 1 though. The initial comfort level is not much different than Trueye, but what really makes a difference is how my eyes feel after take out the lens. They don't feel dry anymore as it did with Trueye. I have taken a few naps with the lens in, but it doesn't dry out as much as Trueye.

    Overall, a better product than Trueye IMHO.

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    I've been a long time wearer of Air Optix to include regular and also the Night and Day. I decided to give the Total 1 Dalies a try because I tend to experience heavy lipid build-up on my other lenses. The Air Optix were lasting about 10 to 15 days before I had to toss them. Here are some observations regarding these new daily lenses:

    1. I had to get used to this new lens and it took about one week. At first, they did tend to dry out a bit. Now that I've given my eyes to adjust, these have become extremely comfortable.

    2. For some reason unknown to me, I am unable to use Pure Moist rewetting drops with these lenses as they give me a stinging sensation. I had used these drops for some time with the Air Optix with absolutely no issues. I switched to Refresh Comfort Drops and the stinging is gone.

    3. I tried the TrueEye lenses also but was unable to wear for more than about 3 hours as they seemed to NOT resist build up. They felt scratchy within this time period.

    4. I actually take naps with these new dailies and find them to stay pretty moist. I like the fact that they are highly breathable (~156 dkt). My eyes don't go totally red like they did with non-silicon dailies after napping.

    Overall, I'm happy with these. My eye chemistry make it ideal for me to wear daily contacts and the price seems to be equivalent given the short life of extended wear lenses in my eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irish View Post
    Are you referring to Sauflon Clariti?
    Yes.
    ALSO great to get human feedback by actual users. I always like to wait till they hype is over and get actual feedback from wearers to get a better idea how they perform after actual usage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rfreda View Post
    Update: Wore the total1's for about 15 hours yesterday and they stayed pretty comfortable the whole day but here's a big issue I've noticed - my intermediate to close vision is terrible in these lens. It's not just presbyopia, which I am experiencing since I'm 46. I've trialed different lenses with my -4.50 rx and I don't have the clarity issue with all of them.

    Biofinity's were crisp but the material did not agree with my eyes, the aquas are clear, my prior Oasys were not that great and was one reason to start trialing others, but the total1's are the worst. I can't see anything close up while with other lens and my glasses I don't even need readers in most situations.

    I read comments on the net from others experiencing the same thing and the resident ECP on a board said it was overcorrection. I don't think that's the case.

    luvboston, you seem to be the resident expert, would like to hear your opinion. As of now I would just go with the aquacomforts but they have low dk/t. Also considering using Oasys again but change to weekly modality - it's still cheaper than the ridiculous total1 price.
    Not all silicone hydrogel lenses are suitable for dry eyes. But from usage and reports Air optix aqua monthly lenses usually perform the best out of all of the current silicone hydrogel lenses suitability for dry eyes.

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