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    Default Replacement for Durasoft 2 Litetint (D2*LT)

    Does anyone know of a good replacement for this discontinued lens? I have a very high prescription (-12.5) and don't know what to use. These are the most comfortable lens I have worn. I can't wear disposables because of dry eye. Help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kithsu View Post
    Does anyone know of a good replacement for this discontinued lens? I have a very high prescription (-12.5) and don't know what to use. These are the most comfortable lens I have worn. I can't wear disposables because of dry eye. Help!
    I wish I knew, kithsu. If only there was a website that can list contact lenses that you can replace another brand that has been discontinued. With so many brands doing that, it wouldn't be a bad idea.

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    Hi- I posted this on another thread...

    I also have a high prescription and have worn these lenses for over 30 years...I was very upset to learn that they were discontinued. Over the years, I have tried to find an alternative out of the very fear that this might happen, and no lenses have worked for me. I spent some time looking on the internet trying to find suggestions by people in the same boat and stumbled upon information for a company called alden optical that appears to be making lenses to serve as substitutes to various discontinued ones. I can't post the URL because this is my first post and I guess you have to post 15 before they let you post a URL. If you search for alden optical, you should find the website.

    Anyhow, I don't know anything about the company and have not tried any of the alternatives that people in the various forums have suggested, but now face the difficult task of going to my doctor to try to find one, and I am so upset. I hope this information helps, because I know how you feel. For myself, I am totally panicked at the thought that I won't be able to find a substitute lens. If you have found any good alternatives, I'd be grateful if you could post. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by ss03 View Post
    Hi- I posted this on another thread...

    I also have a high prescription and have worn these lenses for over 30 years...I was very upset to learn that they were discontinued. Over the years, I have tried to find an alternative out of the very fear that this might happen, and no lenses have worked for me. I spent some time looking on the internet trying to find suggestions by people in the same boat and stumbled upon information for a company called alden optical that appears to be making lenses to serve as substitutes to various discontinued ones. I can't post the URL because this is my first post and I guess you have to post 15 before they let you post a URL. If you search for alden optical, you should find the website.

    Anyhow, I don't know anything about the company and have not tried any of the alternatives that people in the various forums have suggested, but now face the difficult task of going to my doctor to try to find one, and I am so upset. I hope this information helps, because I know how you feel. For myself, I am totally panicked at the thought that I won't be able to find a substitute lens. If you have found any good alternatives, I'd be grateful if you could post. Thanks
    Thanks again ss03. Let us know if you find a good substitute.

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    Default Durosoft 2 replacement options - colors or not

    I was in the same situation now looking for what may be a sub now for the 35 years I've been wearing the same great D'2s now manufactured by Ciba, (or Wesley Jensen), (once known as Aquaflex when I was 12 yrs old) and following it and it's new names for years through Cooper, Wesley Jensen and Ciba now. I don't see an exact match for it now - yet - still looking; however, Freshlook Toric by Wesley Jensen (for stygmatism) and Freshlook Colors are the equivalent of the old D-3's manufactured by Ciba, (or Wesley Jensen). The difference between D-2's and D-3's are that D-2's are 62% Phemphilcon and the D-3's are 45% Phemphilcon, (Phemphilcon being one polymer out of many different ones used in soft contacts). Freshlook contacts are 45% Phemphilcon. As D-3's they were given one contact in a vial and advertised as a annual contact. As Freshlook Torics or Colors (being the same thing physically), they are advertised as a disposable although they are actually still the same annual, but as to whether they are now considered a 1-2 wk or a monthly it doesn't say. I say order one box for each eye and see how long they'll last. I suppose the less polymer, the less strong so they won't be as good as D-2's but I imagine since they're both the same type of polymer they will be as comforatable? I am not sure if it is the thickness and more polymer or the type of polymer or both of these that determines comfort. I can't imagine a more comforatable contact than the D-2. (Gas permeable, or hard contacts are 100% polymer and no H20 and for some people to say that those are comforatable I would think that it would have to do with the type of polymer used). Bottom line expense wise: $196/yr for 2 contacts (D-3's and D-2's) vs. $320/yr for 2 contacts as a year's worth of 2 wk disposables of Freshlook or $160/yr for Freshlook if indicated now to be monthly disposables. Although $160/yr is less than $196 for 2 contacts/year from the D-3's - this is every year - you must order more of these boxes where the D-3's would probably last over a year if not lost or disposed of, - and of course we know the stronger D-2's I have personally had never go bad for up to 5 yrs (saving a sig. amt. of $), until I went swimming with eyes open! The only actual change between the two names for this same contact besides being stated as an annual lens to a disposable one, is that now online ordering (through lens.com and probably anywhere else), you must settle for MEDIAN for the base curve. This allows for the seen as popular 30 day return policy (mostly for unsatisfied as the lesser quality of the daily disposables cause these wearers to change frequently), as they can then be resold more easily. Before this change to being called Freshlook Toric they had a choice of FLAT, MEDIAN, or STEEP base curve for each eye in the D-3's but they, because of this choice for accuracy in vision for each person said they were "made to order" with no return, exchange, or cancellations allowed by Wesley Jensen. I imagine these would be harder to resell! No changes were ever needed with the good contacts though, so no issue. Our eyes are suffering for the mighty dollar now I guess, and it most likely has to do with the economy. Maybe we'll be in luck sooner than later when it improves. Will be back if find an exact match or any other relevant info for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricia View Post
    I was in the same situation now looking for what may be a sub now for the 35 years I've been wearing the same great D'2s now manufactured by Ciba, (or Wesley Jensen), (once known as Aquaflex when I was 12 yrs old) and following it and it's new names for years through Cooper, Wesley Jensen and Ciba now. I don't see an exact match for it now - yet - still looking; however, Freshlook Toric by Wesley Jensen (for stygmatism) and Freshlook Colors are the equivalent of the old D-3's manufactured by Ciba, (or Wesley Jensen). The difference between D-2's and D-3's are that D-2's are 62% Phemphilcon and the D-3's are 45% Phemphilcon, (Phemphilcon being one polymer out of many different ones used in soft contacts). Freshlook contacts are 45% Phemphilcon. As D-3's they were given one contact in a vial and advertised as a annual contact. As Freshlook Torics or Colors (being the same thing physically), they are advertised as a disposable although they are actually still the same annual, but as to whether they are now considered a 1-2 wk or a monthly it doesn't say. I say order one box for each eye and see how long they'll last. I suppose the less polymer, the less strong so they won't be as good as D-2's but I imagine since they're both the same type of polymer they will be as comforatable? I am not sure if it is the thickness and more polymer or the type of polymer or both of these that determines comfort. I can't imagine a more comforatable contact than the D-2. (Gas permeable, or hard contacts are 100% polymer and no H20 and for some people to say that those are comforatable I would think that it would have to do with the type of polymer used). Bottom line expense wise: $196/yr for 2 contacts (D-3's and D-2's) vs. $320/yr for 2 contacts as a year's worth of 2 wk disposables of Freshlook or $160/yr for Freshlook if indicated now to be monthly disposables. Although $160/yr is less than $196 for 2 contacts/year from the D-3's - this is every year - you must order more of these boxes where the D-3's would probably last over a year if not lost or disposed of, - and of course we know the stronger D-2's I have personally had never go bad for up to 5 yrs (saving a sig. amt. of $), until I went swimming with eyes open! The only actual change between the two names for this same contact besides being stated as an annual lens to a disposable one, is that now online ordering (through lens.com and probably anywhere else), you must settle for MEDIAN for the base curve. This allows for the seen as popular 30 day return policy (mostly for unsatisfied as the lesser quality of the daily disposables cause these wearers to change frequently), as they can then be resold more easily. Before this change to being called Freshlook Toric they had a choice of FLAT, MEDIAN, or STEEP base curve for each eye in the D-3's but they, because of this choice for accuracy in vision for each person said they were "made to order" with no return, exchange, or cancellations allowed by Wesley Jensen. I imagine these would be harder to resell! No changes were ever needed with the good contacts though, so no issue. Our eyes are suffering for the mighty dollar now I guess, and it most likely has to do with the economy. Maybe we'll be in luck sooner than later when it improves. Will be back if find an exact match or any other relevant info for this.
    Wow. That's a very impressive first post Tricia. Thanks for taking the time to find all that information and for bringing it here.

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    I've been using the D2 for 25 years. After trying another kind of lens, my Dr prescribed them because, as their name implies, they can stand up to heavier handling. I have a slight co-ordination problem and the D2s have always held up to my usage. The ones my new Dr is suggesting (Frequency 55 by CooperVision) as a replacement keep tearing on me. I'm told that I am too rough on them. I've tried being gentler with them, but with no success. Does anyone know of a lens that can stand up to usage? The initial problem was the way I was cleaning with my finger and palm (in circles rather then up/down left/right). Now I think it's the way I slide out of my eye - specifically the left one. I wonder if the Freshlooks will hold up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnD View Post
    I've been using the D2 for 25 years. After trying another kind of lens, my Dr prescribed them because, as their name implies, they can stand up to heavier handling. I have a slight co-ordination problem and the D2s have always held up to my usage. The ones my new Dr is suggesting (Frequency 55 by CooperVision) as a replacement keep tearing on me. I'm told that I am too rough on them. I've tried being gentler with them, but with no success. Does anyone know of a lens that can stand up to usage?
    Let's see here. According to Internet sources, Durasoft 2 lenses have a center thickness of between 0.07mm and 0.12mm, depending on their power, and for the life of me I could not find the center thickness of Frequency 55 lenses. All I could find were Frequency 55 Aspheric, 55 Toric and 55 Multifocal. What is this world coming to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJim View Post
    Let's see here. According to Internet sources, Durasoft 2 lenses have a center thickness of between 0.07mm and 0.12mm, depending on their power, and for the life of me I could not find the center thickness of Frequency 55 lenses. All I could find were Frequency 55 Aspheric, 55 Toric and 55 Multifocal. What is this world coming to?
    Good question BigJim. I wonder where the Frequency 55 info went?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jubert View Post
    Good question BigJim. I wonder where the Frequency 55 info went?
    I found it. It seems that Frequency 55 lenses comes in two flavors; spheric and aspheric. The spheric ones have a center thickness of 0.07mm and aspheric are 0.09mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kithsu View Post
    Does anyone know of a good replacement for this discontinued lens? I have a very high prescription (-12.5) and don't know what to use. These are the most comfortable lens I have worn. I can't wear disposables because of dry eye. Help!
    What's new, kithsu? Did you find some new lenses that are working for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yournamehere View Post
    I found it. It seems that Frequency 55 lenses comes in two flavors; spheric and aspheric. The spheric ones have a center thickness of 0.07mm and aspheric are 0.09mm.
    Thanks for the help. It looks like the prescription is for spheric lenses. So they have about half the thickness of the Durasofts. I emailed Ciba explaining my situation in the hope they have a suitable substitute for me. I also sent an email to the Freshlook people asking them about the durability of their product. Although I would want a clear or lightly tinted lens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnD View Post
    Thanks for the help. It looks like the prescription is for spheric lenses. So they have about half the thickness of the Durasofts. I emailed Ciba explaining my situation in the hope they have a suitable substitute for me. I also sent an email to the Freshlook people asking them about the durability of their product. Although I would want a clear or lightly tinted lens.
    I hope you'll let us know when you get some answers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yournamehere View Post
    I found it. It seems that Frequency 55 lenses comes in two flavors; spheric and aspheric. The spherical ones have a center thickness of 0.07mm and aspheric are 0.09mm.
    Thanks for looking that up and posting it here, yournamehere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orionebula View Post
    What's new, kithsu? Did you find some new lenses that are working for you?
    Still no word from kithsu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havoc View Post
    I hope you'll let us know when you get some answers.
    Nothing. Ciba told me to keep working w/ my Dr. I have another trial pair. We'll see.

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