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New to RGPS with Dry Eye

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Old 07-30-2011, 04:10 PM
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Hey Everyone,

I recently had issues with dry eye. Unfortunately it was first diagnosed as an eye infection, but eventually my eye Dr discovered I had dry eyes. The assumption is because I overused my soft contact lenses (12 years every day for about 14 hours a day) I started having dry eye issues. Even after I went on restasis and followed every other thing my eye doctor said to do, my eyes are still slightly dry when I wake up, and occasionally get dry during the day but its not really an issue. Unfortunately I cannot wear soft contact lenses for more then an hour or two, and even then they really irritate my eyes for the next few hours.

My Dr told me I should make the switch to RGPS because they will eventually be more comfortable on my eyes. I just got the RGPS yesterday and wore them for four hours. I know they are supposed to be uncomfortable for the first few weeks, but my fear is that I'm going to wear them for two weeks and then realize they are uncomfortable because my eyes are too dry.

Are RGPS in fact perfect for people with dry eyes, or will the RGPS dry out as well from my dry eyes? What should they feel like? They feel irritating only when I blink, or if look around extremely to one side. They also make me blink often and squint. Are all of those normal things or do you think they could be caused by dry eyes?
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Old 07-30-2011, 07:45 PM
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Just a quick update. The contacts feel better, only problem is they feel really really dry. Is that a normal sensation for people new to RGP contacts? When I put the rewetting drops in they feel good (almost perfect), but that only last for about a minute then they go back to feeling uncomfortable.
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Just a quick update. The contacts feel better, only problem is they feel really really dry. Is that a normal sensation for people new to RGP contacts? When I put the rewetting drops in they feel good (almost perfect), but that only last for about a minute then they go back to feeling uncomfortable.
Hi abj723. I'm sorry things aren't going better for you these days.
Soft lenses have a certain percentage of water in them, and many of them are at least 50% water. However, RGP lenses have no water in them, and that may be why they feel dry to you. Hopefully, someone who wears RGP lenses will come along and show you a way to wear them more comfortably.
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:09 AM
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Hi ajb723
What you are describing sounds pretty normal during the adaptation process. Try not to judge comfort yet. I know that's hard but your eyes are nowhere near used to your RGPs yet. You will notice them a lot for a few weeks. My advice is to keep useing the rewetting drops, and drink a lot of water. I have dry eyes also. If my lenses feel dry I'll yawn a few times, it will force out a few tears. It can help alot. Persevere and eventually you will get used to the new lenses.
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:37 AM
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Hi ajb723
What you are describing sounds pretty normal during the adaptation process. Try not to judge comfort yet. I know that's hard but your eyes are nowhere near used to your RGPs yet. You will notice them a lot for a few weeks. My advice is to keep useing the rewetting drops, and drink a lot of water. I have dry eyes also. If my lenses feel dry I'll yawn a few times, it will force out a few tears. It can help alot. Persevere and eventually you will get used to the new lenses.
That sounds like some good advice from someone who's been there. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience, hardlens. I hope it's helpful to ajb723.

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Old 08-24-2011, 10:54 AM
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Hi ajb723
What you are describing sounds pretty normal during the adaptation process. Try not to judge comfort yet. I know that's hard but your eyes are nowhere near used to your RGPs yet. You will notice them a lot for a few weeks. My advice is to keep useing the rewetting drops, and drink a lot of water. I have dry eyes also. If my lenses feel dry I'll yawn a few times, it will force out a few tears. It can help alot. Persevere and eventually you will get used to the new lenses.
So was I able to tell the future, hardlens? Are you "someone who wears RGP lenses [who] will come along and show . . . a way to wear them more comfortably"?
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Old 09-22-2011, 09:44 AM
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So was I able to tell the future, hardlens? Are you "someone who wears RGP lenses [who] will come along and show . . . a way to wear them more comfortably"?
I hope so tonythetiger. That would be so cool.
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Old 11-23-2011, 06:49 AM
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Hi ajb723
What you are describing sounds pretty normal during the adaptation process. Try not to judge comfort yet. I know that's hard but your eyes are nowhere near used to your RGPs yet. You will notice them a lot for a few weeks. My advice is to keep useing the rewetting drops, and drink a lot of water. I have dry eyes also. If my lenses feel dry I'll yawn a few times, it will force out a few tears. It can help alot. Persevere and eventually you will get used to the new lenses.
yeppers agreed!!!
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Old 11-23-2011, 10:15 AM
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So was I able to tell the future, hardlens? Are you "someone who wears RGP lenses [who] will come along and show . . . a way to wear them more comfortably"?
It sounds like hardlens knows his or her stuff to me.
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Old 01-11-2012, 05:57 PM
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yeppers agreed!!!
I checked and it's conformed. Yours is the first use of the word "yeppers" in this forum. Congratulations.
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Old 01-11-2012, 07:34 PM
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Another thing that may help is a product called Systane. One drop in the morning before putting on the lenses, and one drop after removal has been shown to increase comfort and wearing time for many people.
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Another thing that may help is a product called Systane. One drop in the morning before putting on the lenses, and one drop after removal has been shown to increase comfort and wearing time for many people.
That's great. Thanks for the product info. That sounds pretty easy to do.
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Old 01-12-2012, 02:51 PM
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I checked and it's conformed. Yours is the first use of the word "yeppers" in this forum. Congratulations.
Well done Ragnarox. Thanks for the confirmation--and the sign.
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Well done Ragnarox. Thanks for the confirmation--and the sign.
Yeah, I like the "Confirmed" sign as well. When I see it I can hear the "bang" that they use when they show it in TV.
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Old 02-14-2012, 03:05 AM
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Hey Everyone,

I recently had issues with dry eye. Unfortunately it was first diagnosed as an eye infection, but eventually my eye Dr discovered I had dry eyes. The assumption is because I overused my soft contact lenses (12 years every day for about 14 hours a day) I started having dry eye issues. Even after I went on restasis and followed every other thing my eye doctor said to do, my eyes are still slightly dry when I wake up, and occasionally get dry during the day but its not really an issue. Unfortunately I cannot wear soft contact lenses for more then an hour or two, and even then they really irritate my eyes for the next few hours.

My Dr told me I should make the switch to RGPS because they will eventually be more comfortable on my eyes. I just got the RGPS yesterday and wore them for four hours. I know they are supposed to be uncomfortable for the first few weeks, but my fear is that I'm going to wear them for two weeks and then realize they are uncomfortable because my eyes are too dry.

Are RGPS in fact perfect for people with dry eyes, or will the RGPS dry out as well from my dry eyes? What should they feel like? They feel irritating only when I blink, or if look around extremely to one side. They also make me blink often and squint. Are all of those normal things or do you think they could be caused by dry eyes?
great question.
The general answer is that yes they are better for dry eyes because the lens materials in itself does not absorb tears to support water content within the lens structure. However, dry eye is a complex biochemistry issue with multiple components. A healthy tear film is necessary for any lens but more importantly the new rgp materials with increased silicone content can get gucked up with protein or lipid deposits. Dryish eyes can cause protein and lipid to readily adhere to the complex surface biochemistry of florosilicone acrylate, or silicone acrylate rgp lenses.

for dry eyes its best to begin with a lower to mid dk material with reduced silicone and increased flourine content.

Also using a moisturizing eye drop such as refresh tears (the reg formula) not the contact lens formula during the day can maintain the tear film and prevent lipid and protein from sticking to rgp lenses. The regular refresh tears formula is contact lens safe and I do recommend this for my dry eye rgp lens patients. Its a great remedy to maintain comfortable lens wear.
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great question.
The general answer is that yes they are better for dry eyes because the lens materials in itself does not absorb tears to support water content within the lens structure. However, dry eye is a complex biochemistry issue with multiple components. A healthy tear film is necessary for any lens but more importantly the new rgp materials with increased silicone content can get gucked up with protein or lipid deposits. Dryish eyes can cause protein and lipid to readily adhere to the complex surface biochemistry of florosilicone acrylate, or silicone acrylate rgp lenses.

for dry eyes its best to begin with a lower to mid dk material with reduced silicone and increased flourine content.

Also using a moisturizing eye drop such as refresh tears (the reg formula) not the contact lens formula during the day can maintain the tear film and prevent lipid and protein from sticking to rgp lenses. The regular refresh tears formula is contact lens safe and I do recommend this for my dry eye rgp lens patients. Its a great remedy to maintain comfortable lens wear.
What a great forum post, luvbostonxo2's. Interesting, informative, and contains both "complex biochemistry issue" and "gucked up." This post is truly all things to all Web surfers.
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Old 05-05-2012, 04:16 PM
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Hey Everyone,

I recently had issues with dry eye. Unfortunately it was first diagnosed as an eye infection, but eventually my eye Dr discovered I had dry eyes. The assumption is because I overused my soft contact lenses (12 years every day for about 14 hours a day) I started having dry eye issues. Even after I went on restasis and followed every other thing my eye doctor said to do, my eyes are still slightly dry when I wake up, and occasionally get dry during the day but its not really an issue. Unfortunately I cannot wear soft contact lenses for more then an hour or two, and even then they really irritate my eyes for the next few hours.

My Dr told me I should make the switch to RGPS because they will eventually be more comfortable on my eyes. I just got the RGPS yesterday and wore them for four hours. I know they are supposed to be uncomfortable for the first few weeks, but my fear is that I'm going to wear them for two weeks and then realize they are uncomfortable because my eyes are too dry.

Are RGPS in fact perfect for people with dry eyes, or will the RGPS dry out as well from my dry eyes? What should they feel like? They feel irritating only when I blink, or if look around extremely to one side. They also make me blink often and squint. Are all of those normal things or do you think they could be caused by dry eyes?
ajb723,so did u get used to your RGP lenses?
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Old 05-15-2012, 11:37 AM
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What a great forum post, luvbostonxo2's. Interesting, informative, and contains both "complex biochemistry issue" and "gucked up." This post is truly all things to all Web surfers.
Yes I'm an ecp and sometimes the medical jargon does not wrk. So I like to keep it downlow.

But again to the original OP. Dry eye is a complex issue and sometimes even rgp lenses may not be able to be tolerated. Rgp lenses can be irritating and have a scratchy feeling. Blinking a bit more helps along side an omega 3 supplement will help in the long run.

I have dry sensitive days where I have to remove the lenses and you'll have those days but by no means don't force it if your eyes are getting irritated.

In comparison to a soft lens which can feel like a dried out cornflake with those with dry eyes. Rgp lenses do not require moisture to maintain their comfort. So once your fully adapted to them, they will feel comfortable in all situations even if the air is dry or a heater is on.

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