allergic eyes/rgp lenses/lobob

luvbostonxo2's · #1 (**permalink**) 08-12-2012, 11:48 PM

what to do what to do?
I wear rgp lenses ( boston xo2 ) and was an original user of Boston advance user until the eyes developed a hazing issue and allergy to this product. However, I have switched to Lobob optimum solutions and starting to develop a sensitivity to Lobob products as well.

I've gone back to using BL Boston advance to see if it will be a different experience. So here goes night one with the restart of Boston advance...I'll report the followup.

Rhodes95 · #2 (**permalink**) 08-13-2012, 06:25 AM

I have noticed the same thing here except with soft lens solutions. Previously I had switched from Clear Care and was using Aquify, I got through one bottle fine, but about mid-way through the second bottle, I started getting the dry eye and haze/fog which was deposits. So, I went back to Clear Care and all was good until a couple weeks ago, now my eyes are more dry and the usual allergy type stuff. I am considering going to daily disposable lenses to see if that would help. Since you are an ecp, do you think it's possible we could build up a resistance or something? I just don't understand how a solution can be fine for a while, but then start bothering my eyes? Seems to me like if you were going to have problems, it would be from the beginning?

Orionebula · #3 (**permalink**) 08-13-2012, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by luvbostonxo2's

what to do what to do?
I wear rgp lenses ( boston xo2 ) and was an original user of Boston advance user until the eyes developed a hazing issue and allergy to this product. However, I have switched to Lobob optimum solutions and starting to develop a sensitivity to Lobob products as well.

I've gone back to using BL Boston advance to see if it will be a different experience. So here goes night one with the restart of Boston advance...I'll report the followup.

We look forward to your follow-up report.

luvbostonxo2's · #4 (**permalink**) 08-13-2012, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhodes95

I have noticed the same thing here except with soft lens solutions. Previously I had switched from Clear Care and was using Aquify, I got through one bottle fine, but about mid-way through the second bottle, I started getting the dry eye and haze/fog which was deposits. So, I went back to Clear Care and all was good until a couple weeks ago, now my eyes are more dry and the usual allergy type stuff. I am considering going to daily disposable lenses to see if that would help. Since you are an ecp, do you think it's possible we could build up a resistance or something? I just don't understand how a solution can be fine for a while, but then start bothering my eyes? Seems to me like if you were going to have problems, it would be from the beginning?

You nailed it....allergy can be delayed as the mast cells adjust to the preservative. I had a delayed response to the lobob products and I've switched back to Boston.

I use zaditor and cromolyn to manage dry eye and bleph and generally there two meds block the allergy response.

luvbostonxo2's · #5 (**permalink**) 08-13-2012, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Orionebula

We look forward to your follow-up report.

ok so im on day two of using Bausch and Lomb Boston Advance comfort formula again.

I use the full system: Bausch and Lomb Boston Advance comfort formula

Boston advance cleaner
Boston advance conditioning solution
Boston one step liquid enzyme
Boston rewetting drops

PS>lst night used two drops in each well(manufacturers recommended amount) one step liquid enzyme treatment.

SUMMARY:
so far so good....the difference is actually Boston is better for comfort. The ingredients that are formulated in boston advance gives excellent on eye comfort after insertion and during the wearing cycle. The ingredients repels deposits and particles from sticking to the lenses during wear and therefore making rgp lens wear more comfortable. The comfort does last and seems to be long lasting.

Although the lobob system is the best for allergy and sensitive eyes. THe trade off is non allergic ingredients for the comfort formula of Boston. I think the boston advance care system gives better lubrication and provides long lasting comfort.

This lubrication effect is not that great in the lobob system and the wetting solution is almost a bit too "watery" affecting the overall comfort. The thickness of the boston conditioning solution does overall make the lenses more comfortable and totally removes that scratchy sensation. The Boston Advance conditioning solution is thicker than most wetting solutions so there is minor blurring when the lenses go on but does dissapate quite fast in a few minutes.The scratchy sensation is common to us rgp lens wearers due to the materials and size of the lenses. So solution performance is important to the daily comfort of wearing rgp lenses. With the lobob system I always felt as tho true great and non reactive for sensitive eyes but terrible for comfort. I always felt that this could be improved with the LOBOB system. Using the lobob system the irritation always felt scratchy as if a particle is just about to slip underneath the lens so id immediately instill a drop of the lobob rewetting drop to make that scratchy sensation go away. It would only last a few minutes.

SO you decide....comfort and slightly stronger preservative (boston) that MAY cause a sensitivity or allergy free care in a product (lobob)with much less lubrication and comfort!?!?!?!

My choice is the BL Boston Advance care system is the best in maintaining comfort. Scratchy rgp lens wear is not that well tolerated and when I was using the lobob system I was using the wetting/rewetting drops every 30 min on some days due to the lack of lubrication and having that dry scratchy feel.
THe viscosity of the boston condition solution is superior for performance and comfort. It also makes lens wear more comfortable from morning to night. I only use the Boston wetting drops occasionnally as I had to use the Lobob wetting drops continuosly all day.

Devvo · #6 (**permalink**) 08-16-2012, 03:52 PM

Thanks a lot for the report, it was very interesting... I too have noticed that the Lobob wetting drops don't do an amazing job in keeping my lenses moist & comfortable. Right now my left lens feels somewhat itchy, and I have to keep blinking to try to get rid of that feeling. This happens despite applying the drops generously - I usually put in 3-4 drops on each side of each lens before insertion. It's also only been four hours since I put in my lenses.

Guess I'll have to go and re-try the Boston advance conditioning solution to see if it improves matters.

luvbostonxo2's · #7 (**permalink**) 08-17-2012, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Devvo

Thanks a lot for the report, it was very interesting... I too have noticed that the Lobob wetting drops don't do an amazing job in keeping my lenses moist & comfortable. Right now my left lens feels somewhat itchy, and I have to keep blinking to try to get rid of that feeling. This happens despite applying the drops generously - I usually put in 3-4 drops on each side of each lens before insertion. It's also only been four hours since I put in my lenses.

Guess I'll have to go and re-try the Boston advance conditioning solution to see if it improves matters.

Exactly!!!You're experiencing what I have been going through with the LOBOB optimum products.
I don't find the wetting drops that good in making the lenses comfortable. I also don't like the fact that you have to rinse the CDS solution off lenses in the morning before wetting and before insertion....Its an added step and you always have to have a bottle of saline around.

The lobob wetting solution does not repel deposits and particles and therefore gives that scratchy feeling.

Boston advance is better because BL formulated it to repel deposits during wear. I actually find boston advance much more comfortable during the day than using the lobob solutions. Boston advance performs better overall in comfort.