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I was reading some information about preventing eye infections when I saw the advice not to use bottled water to clean your Natural Touch Opaque contacts, or any other kind, for that matter.
I've heard that tap water wasn't good for cleaning contacts, but what's wrong with bottled water? |
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Since it isn't wise to make people test water before suing it for their contact lenses, instructions simply say not to use anything other than fluids created specifically for lens care. |
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Don't take chances, psimonk. Use the approved cleaners if your going to be putting something in your eye. Does your eye doctor know you use tap water to clean your contacts? If he or she says it's okay, than fine, but that doesn't make it okay for everyone. As always, check with your doctor.
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DO NOT use anything other contact solutions on contacts. kk!!! |
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Why not? Isn't bottled water sterilized? Don't they have bottled water that you can use to mix with baby formula? Surely that's not crawling with filth like regular water apparently is.
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I wouldnt chance it...with Acanthamoeba infections on the rise.
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You don't need to sterilise it, it's "clean enough to drink". That does not mean there are no bacteria, viruses, or other micro-organisms in it. So, while the chance of eye infection is still slight, the consequences can be terrible. Look up Acanthamoeba, as luvbostonxo2's suggested. Bottled water also has many minerals in it which are can be absorbed or adsorbed by the lenses, causing them to become uncomfortable or even ruining the material. Let alone disturbing the balance of tears in your eyes. |
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People used to make their own saline. Distilled water and USP grade salt tablets.
You could sterilize tap (or bottled water) by boiling it. Not good enough the problem is the minerals in the water. Distilling water removes all the impurities (including minerals). |
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Posters told you an issue is with the minerals in water. Nursery water says right on the label you posted that a mineral (floride) is added to the water.How many times do posters have to be told--use contact lens solutions for contacts? People aren't even willing (or able) to take the time to read the image they post. Not the kind of person who should be thinking out of the box. I guess people who know what they're doing could use distilled water and USP salt to make their own saline. You'd need fresh every day. Couldn't be used to clean or disinfect your lenses, just to rinse them. Probably wouldn't be much (any?) cheaper then just buying commercial solution when you consider the waste. |
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BigBanker1 posted a scan of a nursery water label. Right on the label it said fluoride is added. He answered his own question. |
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NUFF SAID!!!!!!!!! Your stupid if you want to risk BLINDNESS! |
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So, if someone were to use plain distilled water to clean their contact lenses, with no minerals, they can literally go blind? |
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1) Distilled water isn't sterile. It may have been for a few short moments during and after distillation, but after that it won't be unless it's a specific product for medical or laboratory use. 2) Distilled water can still have other contaminants in it. It has much lower (but still usually some amounts of) minerals than tap water. It may also have other things added - such as fluoride, as does the bottle of distilled water shown a few posts ago. Anyway, if you use soft lenses I wouldn't use anything other than the special solutions or sterile saline. |
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Awww, such a shame you have to put up with such lunkheads on this 101 website. Why don't you just stick to Mensa sites so you can be with individuals that at least approach your intellectual prowess?
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You might be OK if you temporarily stored lenses in distilled water. Not distilled water with anything including fluoride added. But you'd have to disinfect your lenses with a contact lens solution before wearing them. EDITED TO ADD--It's beyond stupid (maybe moronic) to wear contact lenses without properly disinfecting them at night. It's beyond stupid for someone to think water (distilled, bottled, nursery...)has any magical property which will, by itself, disinfect contacts. I could see the logic of someone thinking they could save a few dollars by using over the counter hydrogen peroxide (you can't--hydrogen peroxide sold for has impurities added to lengthen shel life) instead of Clear Care but I can't see any logical reason for thinking you could use water. Last edited by lurker2010; 12-13-2011 at 10:16 AM.. |
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It's been said here and explained often enough why distilled isn't a good idea. I don't get why it is so hard to understand.
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was that a JOke!?!?!?!?! |
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Wowee! Just look at you people! You must really think you're something else. Big Banker1 just asked a question and you jump all over him or her like they said something about eating babies. Is that what people can expect on this website? I thought this was a friendly place where people can ask questions without fear of being ridiculed. I guess I was wrong. I can't believe some of the stuff I've read here.
"Not the kind of person who should be thinking out of the box." -- lurker2010. How do you know what kind of person BigBanker1 is? "Your stupid . . . " -- luvbostonxo2's. Judgmental much? Don't you mean "you're stupid"? It's called a "contraction." Look it up. "It's beyond stupid (maybe moronic) to wear contact lenses without properly disinfecting them at night. It's beyond stupid for someone to think water (distilled, bottled, nursery...)has any magical property which will, by itself, disinfect contacts."-- lurker2010. Wow, I guess you've never had to ask a question about anything before because apparently you know it all. Here's a though. Did you ever think that maybe Bigbanker1 just posted the question on behalf of someone else who is too shy to ask because they're afraid they might be called "stupid" or "moronic"? You should be ashamed of yourselves. |
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.......Does this even need a discussion about whether a liquid is safe or unsafe for contact lenses...its common sense. Bausch and Lomb tweeted yesterday on some of the stupid things people do with contacts....! Like lubricating dry soft lenses in eyes with butter!!?!?!?!? |
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Not many people wear contact lenses, and believe it or not, there are people who just don't understand that contact lenses have to be not just rinsed off, but disinfected. That is, until their doctor explains it to them in a respectful way. Then they understand and will hopefully keep their lenses disinfected. If their doctor yells at them, they may not ask any more questions, even if they have some very important ones. It's always best to be respectful. |
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No comment (see your quote above) Did you find the thread up to Big Banker1's post to be polite and only afterwards went off the rails, or had it already gone bad? |
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I don't know where you got that idea from. About 38 million in the USA (about 16% of all adults). That's about 1 in 7. Hardly "not many" in my book.
The rate in Europe is about half that. I find it hard to believe that anyone gets contact lenses and isn't told by their doctor or ECP how to handle them. |
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1 in 7 is not many. According to those numbers, for every American who wears contact lenses, there are six who do not. It's a lot compared to Europe, sure, but it's still "not many" in my estimation. "Many" would be more like 3 out of 4. I suppose that's a matter of opinion. If you think that everyone understands their doctor's instructions right away, you only have to explore this forum for about ten minutes to see that people don't always a) understand the instructions given, or b) follow those instructions. If you look back to the beginning of this thread, you will see that "psimonk" said "I clean my lenses with tap water, I don't have any problems." Nobody jumped all over him/her and called them stupid. Maidenshades simply said "Don't take chances, psimonk. Use the approved cleaners if your going to be putting something in your eye." There was no name calling, no attitude, no "exasperated sighs." That's the way questions should be answered around here. |
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The posters who should be ashamed of themselves are the posters who continue to suggest water (tap, bottled or nursery) might be an appropriate liquid to store, clean or disenfect contacts. I'm not sure why a parent would want to give an infant distilled water but somehow think fluoride is the only mineral which should be added back. I'd do research before I'd buy that. |
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(edited : corrected grammar and typos) Added: For those that think that we're scaremongering or have shares in a contact-lens-cleaning-solution factory, and if you haven't already followed luvbostonxo's tip of looking up acanthamoeba try here, see what could happen to you: http://www.google.at/search?um=1&hl=en&safe=off&client=opera&rls=en&cha nnel=suggest&tbm=isch&q=acanthamoeba+keratitis&rev id=123654294&sa=X&ei=qL7nTrmVGIL74QST9q2WCQ&ved=0C DsQ1QIoAQ&biw=1678&bih=965 |
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There was a little back and forth. Lurker2010 was frustrated and said "Posters told you [BigBanker1] an issue is with the minerals in water. Nursery water says right on the label you posted that a mineral (fluoride) is added to the water." I said that the response was a bit rude. Lurker2010 said "Not rude, just a little frustrated." luvbostonxo2's started SHOUTING in CAPITAL LETTERS "DO not use anything other than contact solution for Lens care" and it sort of went downhill from there. Hopefully we all understand now that water should probably not be used for cleaning contact lenses, even if it is distilled because it may contain added minerals which may be harmful to contact lenses. Only contact lens solution specifically made to clean the type of contact lenses you have should be used to clean them. Just in general folks. If someone comes to Lens 101 and says "Should I do this with my lenses? Is this okay?" there's no need to jump down their throat if what they're suggesting is not okay. What if your doctor did that? You ask her a question and she said "No! Don't do that! How stupid are you anyway?" Just answer politely and things will go better for everyone. |
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You can buy distilled water without any minerals. Some people use it for steam irons and humidifiers. Years ago contact lens wearers mixed distilled water with a USP grade salt tablet in order to make saline. You used a small bottle, (3-4 oz?) since you needed fresh solution every day. Heat was used to disinfect your lenses. That was actually the only approved way to care for contacts when soft lenses were first marketed. Heat is no longer used, for a variety of reasons. Distilled water doesn't contain any ingredient which will clean or disinfect your lenses. I guess you could use it for emergency storage of your lens, as long as you disinfected your lens prior to use but why? In an emergency (US) you can buy some kind of contact lens solution in a 24 hour store. CVS. 7-11. Mini-mart connected with a gas station. 24 hour supermarket. Much easier to find contact lens solution then pure distilled water. "Distilled" water sold for drinking might have some minerals added back to the water. Finding just plain distilled water isn't as easy as you'd think. You're not likely to find it in the water aisle of a supermarket. edited to add--Soft lenses contain a significant % of water, frequently more then half. Any minerals, or other impurities, in the water will be "soaked" up into your lens. Not good for the life of your lens and can cause a variety of eye problems. Again even if you find distilled water you'd still need contact lens solution to disinfect your lens. |
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I remember those days. Boiling the lens container in a saucepan and/or overnight in a thermos-flask of boiling water. What a pain that was. |
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Wow. Times have sure changed. It's a good thing we have smart people to figure out ways to make life easier for the rest of us.
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Mmmmmm . . . smells like toric. |
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That's right, you said "boiling the lens container in a saucepan." It's a pretty silly picture though. Thanks for making me smile, ElaineKramer.
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Yeah, I thought it was pretty funny, too.
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