Precision UV Contacts a Fraud?

yournamehere · #1 (**permalink**) 09-11-2008, 06:00 PM

Some people, when the find out that their new special friend wears Precision UV contact lenses (or any contact lenses, I suppose) feel like they've been lied to. They think contacts, even clear contacts, are a fraud.

What do you think?

leenie812 · #2 (**permalink**) 02-10-2011, 11:35 PM

what do you mean by a fraud?

Starr · #3 (**permalink**) 02-11-2011, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by leenie812

what do you mean by a fraud?

I hope yournamehere doesn't mind me stepping in here, but he or she seems to have stepped out.

I think the question is, when someone finds out that their friend wears contact lenses, they may be tempted to ask "Why did you lie to me?" Yournamehere seems to want to know if not mentioning your contacts is a lie or a deception. What do you think?

Me, personally, if I meet someone and have a friendship with them for a number of days or weeks and then find out they're wearing contacts, if they never mentioned their eyes, it's not a deception. I made the incorrect assumption that the person does not wear contacts.
If, however, I say "Wow, your eyes are such a bright green," that gives the person a chance to say "Thanks, they're emerald contact lenses." If the person does not mention the contacts at that point, it's deception. It's obviously fraud if someone asks them directly if they're wearing contacts and they say they're not.

yournamehere · #4 (**permalink**) 02-22-2011, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Starr

I hope yournamehere doesn't mind me stepping in here, but he or she seems to have stepped out.

I think the question is, when someone finds out that their friend wears contact lenses, they may be tempted to ask "Why did you lie to me?" Yournamehere seems to want to know if not mentioning your contacts is a lie or a deception. What do you think?

Me, personally, if I meet someone and have a friendship with them for a number of days or weeks and then find out they're wearing contacts, if they never mentioned their eyes, it's not a deception. I made the incorrect assumption that the person does not wear contacts.
If, however, I say "Wow, your eyes are such a bright green," that gives the person a chance to say "Thanks, they're emerald contact lenses." If the person does not mention the contacts at that point, it's deception. It's obviously fraud if someone asks them directly if they're wearing contacts and they say they're not.

Thank you, Starr. That's just what I meant. I want to know if people on Lens 101 think a person can be called a liar of he or she said nothing about the fact that they're wearing contact lenses. We're not talking about someone who says "I'm not wearing contact lenses," we're talking about someone who says nothing.

oingoboingo · #5 (**permalink**) 02-22-2011, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by yournamehere

Thank you, Starr. That's just what I meant. I want to know if people on Lens 101 think a person can be called a liar of he or she said nothing about the fact that they're wearing contact lenses. We're not talking about someone who says "I'm not wearing contact lenses," we're talking about someone who says nothing.

In that case, no. A lie is defined as "a false statement." If you say nothing, it's not a lie. So if my girlfriend sees my green contact lens pop out one day and says "You never told me you wear contact lenses, you lied to me." That is an incorrect statement. Her statement is not a lie either, because she's mistaken. She's not deliberately giving false information.

Good grief. Now I'm sounding like Data. I shall remove all contractions from my previous statement.

A lie is defined as "a false statement." If you say nothing, it is not a lie. So if my girlfriend sees my [yellow] contact lens pop out one day and says "You never told me you wear contact lenses, you lied to me." That is an incorrect statement.
Her statement is not a lie either, because she is mistaken. She is not deliberately giving false information.

Geek out!

Starr · #6 (**permalink**) 03-04-2011, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by oingoboingo

In that case, no. A lie is defined as "a false statement." If you say nothing, it's not a lie. So if my girlfriend sees my green contact lens pop out one day and says "You never told me you wear contact lenses, you lied to me." That is an incorrect statement. Her statement is not a lie either, because she's mistaken. She's not deliberately giving false information.

Good grief. Now I'm sounding like Data. I shall remove all contractions from my previous statement.

A lie is defined as "a false statement." If you say nothing, it is not a lie. So if my girlfriend sees my [yellow] contact lens pop out one day and says "You never told me you wear contact lenses, you lied to me." That is an incorrect statement.
Her statement is not a lie either, because she is mistaken. She is not deliberately giving false information.

Geek out!

Wow, did you really have to restate your entire thread again? I'm not trying to be a smart aleck or anything, I'm just sayin'.

lurker2010 · #7 (**permalink**) 03-04-2011, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by yournamehere

Some people, when the find out that their new special friend wears Precision UV contact lenses (or any contact lenses, I suppose) feel like they've been lied to. They think contacts, even clear contacts, are a fraud.

What do you think?

I hope you're joking. Otherwise you're hanging out some very weird people.

The only way it would be fraud would be if the person was taking something like an eye exam for a drivers license and didn't want the license to indicate corrective lenses are required.

Nutradude · #8 (**permalink**) 03-04-2011, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by lurker2010

I hope you're joking. Otherwise you're hanging out some very weird people.

The only way it would be fraud would be if the person was taking something like an eye exam for a drivers license and didn't want the license to indicate corrective lenses are required.

Some people may be very sensitive about that sort of thing.

If I'm not mistaken, I think I read something right here on Lens 101 (Besides this thread) that was either written by someone who felt deceived by their friend's wearing contact lenses, or they were wearing the contacts and their "significant other" reacted badly to the news.

For situations in which someone overreacts to something their spouse did or didn't do, see "Mad About You."

Starr · #9 (**permalink**) 03-07-2011, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Nutradude

Some people may be very sensitive about that sort of thing.

If I'm not mistaken, I think I read something right here on Lens 101 (Besides this thread) that was either written by someone who felt deceived by their friend's wearing contact lenses, or they were wearing the contacts and their "significant other" reacted badly to the news.

For situations in which someone overreacts to something their spouse did or didn't do, see "Mad About You."

My favorite line from that show was when Paul said "Just . . . tell me the right thing to say and I'll say it."

It never worked for me either.