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Old 02-19-2008, 04:47 PM
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Default Does Astigmatism Get Better?

I've heard a lot about your eyes getting worse and worse as time goes by, but I'm curious about astigmatism in particular. Does it ever actually improve with time? Do contacts help? Does astigmatism ever completely go away on its own?
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Old 02-25-2008, 03:42 PM
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Default Does Astigmatism Get Better?

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I've heard a lot about your eyes getting worse and worse as time goes by, but I'm curious about astigmatism in particular. Does it ever actually improve with time? Do contacts help? Does astigmatism ever completely go away on its own?
I just found an article on line (I forget where.) that said that yes, astigmatism can go away completely on it's own. Admittedly, it's rare, but it's not unheard of.
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Old 04-29-2009, 09:32 AM
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I just found an article on line (I forget where.) that said that yes, astigmatism can go away completely on it's own. Admittedly, it's rare, but it's not unheard of.
Wow. that's cool Herbking. Thanks for the information. It's good to know.
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Old 05-06-2009, 12:48 AM
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This is true. I did have astigmatism years and years ago, then it apparently got better??? because I could use normal contacts for a long time. Obviously it did not last forever, cause I am right back to where I started two decades ago.
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Old 05-06-2009, 10:52 AM
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This is true. I did have astigmatism years and years ago, then it apparently got better??? because I could use normal contacts for a long time. Obviously it did not last forever, cause I am right back to where I started two decades ago.
Thanks for your post, catt. I have a few more questions if you don't mind.

The first one is, what do you mean by "normal" contacts. People don't wear contacts for normal vision. Unless they're colored, if that's what you mean.

Secondly, how did you happen to go back to toric lenses? Did your eye doctor examine you and say you no longer had astigmatism, then examined you again and put you back in toric lenses?
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Old 05-07-2009, 12:33 AM
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Toric lenses are somewhat different than the normal thin contacts sold today They are shaped different, thicker and are weighted on the bottom. They also take a while to become accustomed to . I started wearing the new toric ones yesterday and will try to continue for one week. After which, I will be re-evaluated to see if this works best for me. So far, my left eye is 20/25 and everything is really clear. Not so for my right eye. Not nearly as clear or comfortable. Am willing to give it just a few more days with the right one.

One incredibly exciting fact, is that now I can read the newspaper WITHOUT reading glasses. “I can see clearly now”

My astigmatism is very slight, so I have been able to get away without the use of the toric ones; however, I have noticed a huge improvement.
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Old 05-07-2009, 09:49 AM
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Default Does Astigmatism Get Better?

Thanks for the fast reply.

When you said "I did have astigmatism years and years ago, then it apparently got better??? because I could use normal contacts for a long time" I got a little confused. You said your vision "got better" and so you were able to use "normal" contact lenses. If you still needed contact lenses, I wouldn't consider that "normal." So when you said you could use "normal" contacts, did you mean "non-toric" contacts?

Hope to hear from you soon, and I hope you start seeing clearly with both eyes.
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Old 05-07-2009, 10:07 AM
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You're right, the only way that I have normal vision is with the use of contacts. And although I can see pretty good (or at least I thought I could) with non toric lenses, I have found the difference between them wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy betterrrrrrrrrrrr. The one thing that I have never liked about toric ones were the thicknesss of them -- at least the clear "trial" ones that I am trying for a week are pretty heavy.
Hey, next week I will post a pic of me with my new blue toric lenses........ Hey, I CAN ACTUALLY READ SOMETHING THAT HAS NORMAL PRINT -- WITHOUT READING GLASSES. Never thought I would ever be able to do that again. This is a huge and I mean Huge thing for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
See ya Baby Blue!
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Old 05-07-2009, 10:17 AM
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You're right, the only way that I have normal vision is with the use of contacts. And although I can see pretty good (or at least I thought I could) with non toric lenses, I have found the difference between them wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy betterrrrrrrrrrrr. The one thing that I have never liked about toric ones were the thicknesss of them -- at least the clear "trial" ones that I am trying for a week are pretty heavy.
Hey, next week I will post a pic of me with my new blue toric lenses........ Hey, I CAN ACTUALLY READ SOMETHING THAT HAS NORMAL PRINT -- WITHOUT READING GLASSES. Never thought I would ever be able to do that again. This is a huge and I mean Huge thing for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
See ya Baby Blue!
Don't hold back. How do you REALLY feel?

Welcome to a world without reading glasses, catt. Enjoy.
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Old 05-21-2009, 08:41 PM
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Ever since I started wearing contacts my astigmatism has been getting better but I would say its probably a case by case basis.
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Old 05-22-2009, 10:51 AM
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Ever since I started wearing contacts my astigmatism has been getting better but I would say its probably a case by case basis.
Oh, I have no doubt it's a case-by-case basis. I'm glad that your own astigmatism is is improving. How much of an improvement have you seen? My own astigmatism is exactly the same. I have two cards from my eye doctor with my prescription on them. They were done a year apart and the numbers are identical. I'm going to see him again next week and we'll see what happens.
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Old 05-23-2009, 10:12 AM
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Oh, I have no doubt it's a case-by-case basis. I'm glad that your own astigmatism is is improving. How much of an improvement have you seen? My own astigmatism is exactly the same. I have two cards from my eye doctor with my prescription on them. They were done a year apart and the numbers are identical. I'm going to see him again next week and we'll see what happens.
Mine used to be like axis 90 and 10 and then this time they are axis 170 and 180 and cylinder .75 each time he told me my astigmatism was so low that he could fit me in non astigmatism contacts so I was excited because of the larger variety of choices versus the astigmatisms.

I wanted to wear night and day but then I ended up needing the astigmatism ones because the others made things blurry.
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Old 08-21-2009, 10:11 AM
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Hey, next week I will post a pic of me with my new blue toric lenses........
See ya Baby Blue!
Hi Catt,

"Next week" was about six months ago, do you have any pictures? You know how us Lens 101 members like to look at pictures!
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Old 08-21-2009, 05:22 PM
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Hey babyblues,

I haven't been able to wear the new toric lenses (bummer), therefore, I have no new pics. I do however, have two boxes of toric contact lenses that I will never be able to use (double bummer)!!!!
DO NOT GO TO LENS CRAFTERS!!!!!
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Old 08-24-2009, 10:37 AM
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Hey babyblues,

I haven't been able to wear the new toric lenses (bummer), therefore, I have no new pics. I do however, have two boxes of toric contact lenses that I will never be able to use (double bummer)!!!!
DO NOT GO TO LENS CRAFTERS!!!!!
Sorry about that, catt. I hope you find some torics you can use. Have you tried lens.com? I saw that big red square at the top of this page. Maybe they can help.
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Old 10-30-2009, 10:57 AM
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Wow. that's cool Herbking. Thanks for the information. It's good to know.
You're welcome. I'm glad I could be of help to you.
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Old 12-10-2009, 11:36 AM
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Hey babyblues,

I haven't been able to wear the new toric lenses (bummer), therefore, I have no new pics. I do however, have two boxes of toric contact lenses that I will never be able to use (double bummer)!!!!
DO NOT GO TO LENS CRAFTERS!!!!!
Hi catt. What's new? Was your problem here due to the contact lenses themselves, or did it have something to do with Lens Crafters? Have you gotten it resolved?
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Old 12-14-2009, 02:45 PM
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Hi catt. What's new? Was your problem here due to the contact lenses themselves, or did it have something to do with Lens Crafters? Have you gotten it resolved?
Hey babyblues,

Went to Lens Crafters a few weeks ago asking for my non-toric contact lens prescription (he did an exam for both toric and regular ones). This was noted in my file; however he apparently never bothered to write it down. When I asked the guy behind the counter how I could get a copy of that exam, he said that I would need to come in for another fitting. Curious, I asked how much this fitting would cost. He did apologize before stating $55.00. FIFTY-FIVE FRIGGING DOLLARS for their mistake. I explained to him that “I don’t think so”, in addition to a few other choice words.

So, last Friday, saw both my Ophthalmologist (for my amoeba floater) and Optometrist for a new contact lens prescription. Optometrist said that I was probably not a good candidate for toric lenses as my astigmatism is somewhat difficult to correct. So. . . I left there with the same prescription I had been wearing for the last 25-30 yrs. She explained that your vision pretty much stabilizes in your mid-20's and will remain the same until ??? somewhere in your 60’s? I asked my husband if this was true for him. He said “No Way, mine just keep getting worse”.

Does her statement ring true for anyone else reading this?
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Old 12-14-2009, 03:15 PM
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Hey babyblues,

So, last Friday, saw both my Ophthalmologist (for my amoeba floater) and Optometrist for a new contact lens prescription. Optometrist said that I was probably not a good candidate for toric lenses as my astigmatism is somewhat difficult to correct. So. . . I left there with the same prescription I had been wearing for the last 25-30 yrs. She explained that your vision pretty much stabilizes in your mid-20's and will remain the same until ??? somewhere in your 60’s? I asked my husband if this was true for him. He said “No Way, mine just keep getting worse”.

Does her statement ring true for anyone else reading this?
Hi catt,

Me, myself, personally . . . my prescription has not changed since I started saving the cards I get from my eye doctor in 2007. So it's been at least two years without any change in my eyesight. However, now that I've reached That Certain Age when "people's arms start to get shorter" *Ahem* that may change soon, but my astigmatism has been rock steady since 2007.
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Old 02-02-2010, 02:19 PM
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Hey, next week I will post a pic of me with my new blue toric lenses........ Hey, I CAN ACTUALLY READ SOMETHING THAT HAS NORMAL PRINT -- WITHOUT READING GLASSES. Never thought I would ever be able to do that again. This is a huge and I mean Huge thing for me!!!!
Did you post that picture of your catt's eyes with the blue toric lenses yet? Everyone likes a blue eyed catt.

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Old 02-10-2010, 12:13 PM
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Nope; however I have finally "Seen The Light" in this one. ROTFLMCAO!!!

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Old 02-10-2010, 01:00 PM
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Nope; however I have finally "Seen The Light" in this one. ROTFLMCAO!!!
Nice picture, catt. I like the jeans and the boots. I can't see your eyes very well, though. (I gotta stay focused.)

Hey! I made a joke! "Focused." "Contact lenses." Get it?

Okay, I'll go now.
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Old 03-17-2010, 01:29 PM
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So, catt. Have you posted those pictures yet with your baby blue toric lenses?
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Old 07-29-2011, 06:41 PM
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I know this is an old thread but I had to tell my story.

Two years ago my health started to fail, given my family history I knew this would lead to a stroke and fatal heart attack. I checked myself into the hospital, dizzy and feeling faint. I wasn't ever told that this was a transient stroke but had the distinct feeling it was stroke related. Communication in a hospital really leaves much to be worked on. A couple of days later I checked myself out against doctors orders. I proceeded to close down a business I had run for 30 years and checked myself back into the hospital where I promptly had three more strokes. The last stroke was in the middle of testing, my right side went numb. The stroke prior to that one left me talking gibberish I knew what I wanted to say but it just came out like nonsense.

The last memory I have was of them preparing me for an operation, I was thinking this is how my father died, an operation then three days later a fatal heart attack. A doctor came over and said "this is not your fault you did nothing to contribute to this" as it turns out he was an athlete who did marathon running and at 35 had a heart attack, later he told me his father died at 50.

I had a right carotid artery surgery. The numbness in my right side slowly faded away, some damage was done to my thinking process but language damage was reversing by the hour. What was affected was complex reasoning, in that long related strings of thought were no longer possible, the only inconvenience is believing I still can function as I once did, now I get by rethinking the same issues over and over until it becomes a long lasting memory. This basically is therapy for me.

A few months into my recovery my left side started showing signs that my right side had, without waiting for the strokes that would come next I opted for recommended left carotid artery surgery. Then very shortly there after I had a heart attack. I had a stent put in, basically it's called a "bypass".

As all this was happening my legs started to go, very painful. To relieve some of the pain I underwent a right leg bypass. All went exceedingly well.

While all this was going on I would occasionally get upper respiratory infections, a combination of my weakened heath and exposure to the hospitals in that weakened condition. This was the beginning of being condemned by my medical history. My general practitioner was the first to reach his knowledge limit. Prescribing all sorts of inhalers and breathing devices I knew he was accepting the condition rather than addressing the underlying causes. I had to finally go to a new doctor and insist on antibiotics, it took three courses but the infection was gone.

This was so reminiscent of a car problem I had years ago, I was in a front end accident- purely cosmetic since I had the repairs done very far from home I was reluctant to return there for work on the car. A few months later I dropped an axle. Taking it to a local repair shop they replaced the axle and pointed to the front end accident as the cause, a few weeks later it happened again, took it to another shop and same thing, replaced and told it was the accident that caused it- they could not look past it, it was an easy excuse. The next week it dropped again, this time I called the original repair shop they were not surprised since they worked on it originally. Having it towed to their shop I asked what was actually happening. As it turned out they had to remove the left wheel and axle to do the fender work and in putting it back on they miscalculated the "slack" they fixed it and it held for another three years until it was sold.

Now through all this my eyes had held up well, my right eye was always the poorer of the two since every eye exam I had I was told the right eye had an astigmatism, since I was a kid I had noticed the right eye was dimmer than the left in that when i went into a darkened room the right eye saw slightly darker, I had never thought much of it. I was aware that with each operation my focus took longer to return to "normal" I would attribute that to anesthesia and medications I was on. As in the past there were better days where I could watch TV with no glasses and as in the past only on very few bad days I would resort to my distant glasses for comfortable television watching- very few days.

About eight months after my leg bypass I was not even aware anything was done other than lack of pain, it was that recovered. It was winter time and I got another upper respiratory infection, it started as a cough and became an infection much like phenomena. This time the new doctor had no reservations to treating it as such. Now the one disturbing thing about it, something I was accustomed to, was long profound coughing fits, standing in the kitchen in the middle of a particularly long fit I felt a pain in my left side sharp and pronounced as if I was stabbed. I had to call for an ambulance I was in that much pain. The lower rib was fractured, the only thing the doctors questioned was how ... because of taking a combination of Plavix and aspirin I bruise easily and by holding my side I did bruise. This brings me to what I would call the "House MD" syndrome- I really don't think doctors and nurses should be allowed to watch a program where the basis is "everyone lies" it's so counter productive if a doctor or nurse suspects this, what is to be achieved by confronting a patient. There was a time I'd call the "Doctor Ben Casey, Dr. Kildare,. Marcus Welby" times when the patient was the best source of what ailed them, oh well. I know that Wikipedia is a poor source sometimes for information but: Causes- "Rib fractures can occur without direct trauma and have been reported after sustained coughing. Mayo Clinic: "Bone scan. This technique is good for viewing stress fractures, where a bone is cracked after repetitive trauma — such as long bouts of coughing". ". Like I said "oh well".

This sets the stage for why I'm posting this. Just after recovering from the rib, I'd say it was still sore and I'd hold my side when I coughed, not much pain but more a reflex, I had another coughing fit it was more like the last of the infection as it was getting better and better and at the tail end of the antibiotics. As i coughed my right eye was experiencing pain- in the back of the eye, since headaches were some of the side effects of medication the pain didn't surprise me more than it was something to note. The very next morning I woke up and noticed something was wrong. It took me a short time but I narrowed it down to double vision in my right eye. It's often refereed to as monocular double vision, more precisely "monocular diplopia". This started a journey of almost eight months, in a few days it will be.

Now the first place I went after getting an appointment with "Dr W", was the internet, both a "yay" and an "oh no". A mix of two things here- the appointment was two weeks away even though I read in almost all cases time was important and I conveyed that to the receptionist without any reaction- to the point I actually wondered if she heard me. The internet, although to some degree comforting was also a sea of drastic contradictions. Given my stoke history evaluating the different opinions was tedious at best, I began to read the same stories over and over, bookmarked quite a few sites to revisit continually. In my reading I would print out various things to act as a "cheat sheet". Constantly weighing the quality of the information and source, the Mayo clinic and a few others ranked high, forums like this one needed more than a grain of salt. I did my best to filter out my desires for what might be happening against what I felt was specific information. One of the most disturbing things I read in many places even well thought of journals "imaginary monocular diplopia" soon I found out the reason for this and that too is disturbing, one of the nasty side effects of laser surgery is "monocular diplopia" in other words to protect themselves from tons of lawsuits "monocular diplopia" is first told to the patient as having happened because they have dry eye syndrome failing the patients buying that it them becomes something that is not "real" made up from a perception that is incorrect ... the patients fault after all. We had a similar thing going on in the dental field to our shame, a cracked porcelain crown or bridge was always the patient's fault no matter what- "what did you do?" was the question from the doctors "did you drink particularly hot coffee or tea?". The truth of the matter is that a person could drink boiling water for five minutes straight and only if they then plunged their mouths in ice water could anything negative happen.

Doctor "W" treated my father through some long and complex issues, as a diabetic he was prone to diabetic retinopathy and macular degeneration. Having lived with this my father and I would always test our blood, I would get every free meter I could and test until the free test strips were gone and the batteries died. I have gone almost yearly for a fasting blood test and lately for an A1C test. The A1C test gives you the last few months of blood sugar levels, thankfully I have yet to fail one.

I had the two weeks to prepare for Dr "W", since I've been on a dizzying array of medications I have put them on a spreadsheet, and carry a laminated card with all of them to hand to doctors in new hospitals, very handy, I also have charted my medical history, both I brought with me. Along with some information on monocular diplopia. I felt comfortable that he would understand and work with my history, in an odd way he did. He gave me every test I thought there was, took images too, it was if nothing very complete. Then we sat down for the "findings" I had an astigmatism in my right eye, this from years of eye tests I was sure of- though I did ask if it had gotten worse (I had also brought my last eye test) "no not really" hmm "could this change be brought on by a coughing fit?" "no not really". He then went on to say "if this were really monocular diplopia we would have a paper to write. There we go with a thinly veiled "it's your imagination". I never felt so let down and disappointed before not at this level not from a professional I trusted. Now what I was seeing was classic according to everything I had seen and read on the internet, the shown effects were not in dispute the cause was. I'll try to include images here, oops just got a message that "You are only allowed to post URLs to other sites after you have made 15 posts or more.". He continued on showing me images, now he did admit curiously nothing looked wrong with the optical plate said it might be "soft" he also made note of blood vessels that were not as perfuse and the other eye, when asked if that accounted for slightly dimmer vision in that eye he said "yes" to which I pointed out that it was an existing condition I had grown up with. There was some evidence of my circulatory issues in the form of one abnormal blood vessel. I was certain it was a lens issue, he was insisting it was an interior eye issue. Since he said neither one of us could be sure he referred me to two contact lens specialists, Dr "R" and Dr Jodie.

My appointment with Dr "R" I supplied the same medical history and list of medications. I went through the same tests as with Dr "W" and then some. He was rather quiet through the whole exam. Basically when it came time for his evaluation curiously it was almost word for word as the one I got from Dr "W" though without any protesting from me, he did lean heavy on the "perception" excuse this made me quite certain something was wrong and not with my vision, later I would have sweet vindication. I immediately suspected this doctor, I have never requested my medical records relying mostly on my memory of a doctors visit and what medications are prescribed for what. But this time as soon as I got home I wrote a letter insisting on copies. While I was waiting I made an appointment with Dr "Jodie".

Dr "Jodie" ... ok this might be an evaluation shaded by the results but I really hope not. Nice office as most are but nice enough that I actually commented on it. He impressed me as an energetic not so young but appearing so Doctor. As before I came with all the medical information and now with two more doctors on my contact information. He listened to my issues carefully then proceeded to run all the tests I had become familial with. Then he said there is something he needs to try, one more room. I sat down and he asked if he could numb my eye, "of course" he may not have asked as much as told me anyway I was eager for anything that wasn't what I've had before. He then put a contact in ... and then held a lens up in front of it "how's this?" oh god it was perfect!! for the first time in seven months (eight until I got my lenses fitted) I could see clearly! without any hint of double vision! The weight that was on me lifted, I felt like crying I might have because of the way he patted me on the back and said "it's alright". I asked him about how I thought it happened he had a novel thought about it that I could live with since the end results are fantastic "some people live with the issue for a long time and for some reason they wake up one morning and it's like it just happened" It gets better *insert smiley face here*.

Oh god Dr "R's" copy of my records came in. Along with it was his evaluation to doctor "W". I forget the exact words but it was something like this "I have evaluated WD and have found the problem to not be optics but inside the eye medical conditions. Further more I have counseled Mr WD on the importance of his diabetic control and the importance of watching his blood sugar. Never had he uttered one word of that! and I was not only sure I wasn't diabetic I was incensed! I went immediately for another A1C test and a fasting blood test. The results "not diabetic". After two years of medical problems and the hundreds- hundreds of tests besides my constant testing blood sugar did any doctor even hint I was.

On to Doctor "K" none of the doctors before this would do a contact lens fitting, I had asked Dr "Jodie" what was next, he said go back to Dr "W" and see who he recommends for contacts. By this time I was exhausted it had been seven months and counting that I could not see clearly. I tried as much as I could to ignore it between doctor appointments, tune out the right eye. I could for the most part but after a couple of hours the computer or reading or watching TV I would have to close my right eye, this would bring on terrible eye strain on my left eye, this I admit may have been psychological. Dr "K"! poor man, I came to him with my medical records and list of medications, my records now included three eye specialists, and my verbal story.

He fitted me with GP lenses gas permeable, and suggested I might not be able to tolerate them, I couldn't. Then he fitted me with Toric lenses- almost perfect!, well to me they were perfect, I would need my glasses for reading and mid range but my distance sight was spot on. Then something really really odd started to happen. While I'm waiting the two weeks for a follow up, oh I only got the right eye toric the left lens tore in trying it on but was excellent for the amount of time I did have it on, I was waiting for a replacement. Three days into wearing it something felt very odd I would go in and out of focus more and more, I assumed it was the lens settling down at first it took a few blinks and then it would sharpen up. By the forth day it took so long I would blink a few times then have to ignore it and eventually it would sharpen up. The way I was testing it was that logo on most TV stations on the lower right bottom would be sharp as hell, so would the fine print on car ads (I know the quality of the ads goes up and down depending if it's in HD or not, trust me I know the difference). I had in the days with the GP lenses noticed after taking them off my eyesight was sharp for a while, nothing amazing I had read as much. That it was happening for longer and longer periods of time also to be expected. Now I had read about cornea reshaping and asked the doctor what he thought, he didn't think much of it and I felt comfortable with where I was at.

The fifth day I left my contacts out (contact, the toric I was still waiting on the left) By mid morning there was something up with my mid range glasses (computer use) my right eye was a complete blur. I had a very short "oh shit" moment, then i noticed it was a blur but not double! I looked over at the TV above the glasses- covering the left eye. The image was sharp! ok ok I was floored I could not believe it, all day I kept looking waiting for it to fade. I did remember one thing about cornea reshaping a girl who said she sleeps with contacts in and it lasts for about three days until she needs to sleep with them in again, I didn't accept it as being real. By the next day I woke to it still holding, I kept looking back and forth to see it I couldn't believe my eyes really couldn't. My appointment was a week off to get a new glasses RX. I had to do something, find out what was going on, we have a small chain of eye glass places here called "Wise Eyes" the kind of place you can walk into and get an eye exam and a pair of glasses quickly. They had given me an exam in 2009 three years ago. I had to know. Going there I told the examiner "something has changed, I need it documented from my last prescription". I said it enough he responded "I know I heard you" the results- "your left eye has gotten slightly worse your right eye is 20/20 and no astigmatism- mazel tov!" are you kidding me I asked, "not at all you want to tell me what you did?"

More tomorrow ...

Below are my RX's as soon as I got home from my appointment I scanned them and sent them off to my girlfriend and brother, my printer was running low on ink so I took them up to Dr "K" and asked that they be copied and put in my file, my next appointment with him is Thursday August 4th, we were going to do an eye exam with my Toric lenses in that has changed a bit now I'd like him to confirm that my right eye is free from astigmatism and is 20/20. I stopped wearing the right contact on July 23rd 2011 four days later I had to find out if in fact my vision in my right eye had improved, I got the exam July 27th. it's now August 1st 2011 and my vision has held in my right eye for nine days.
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I know this is an old thread but I had to tell my story.

Two years ago my health started to fail, given my family history I knew this would lead to a stroke and fatal heart attack. I checked myself into the hospital, dizzy and feeling faint. I wasn't ever told that this was a transient stroke but had the distinct feeling it was stroke related. Communication in a hospital really leaves much to be worked on. A couple of days later I checked myself out against doctors orders. I proceeded to close down a business I had run for 30 years and checked myself back into the hospital where I promptly had three more strokes. The last stroke was in the middle of testing, my right side went numb. The stroke prior to that one left me talking gibberish I knew what I wanted to say but it just came out like nonsense.

The last memory I have was of them preparing me for an operation, I was thinking this is how my father died, an operation then three days later a fatal heart attack. A doctor came over and said "this is not your fault you did nothing to contribute to this" as it turns out he was an athlete who did marathon running and at 35 had a heart attack, later he told me his father died at 50.

I had a right carotid artery surgery. The numbness in my right side slowly faded away, some damage was done to my thinking process but language damage was reversing by the hour. What was affected was complex reasoning, in that long related strings of thought were no longer possible, the only inconvenience is believing I still can function as I once did, now I get by rethinking the same issues over and over until it becomes a long lasting memory. This basically is therapy for me.

A few months into my recovery my left side started showing signs that my right side had, without waiting for the strokes that would come next I opted for recommended left carotid artery surgery. Then very shortly there after I had a heart attack. I had a stent put in, basically it's called a "bypass".

As all this was happening my legs started to go, very painful. To relieve some of the pain I underwent a right leg bypass. All went exceedingly well.

While all this was going on I would occasionally get upper respiratory infections, a combination of my weakened heath and exposure to the hospitals in that weakened condition. This was the beginning of being condemned by my medical history. My general practitioner was the first to reach his knowledge limit. Prescribing all sorts of inhalers and breathing devices I knew he was accepting the condition rather than addressing the underlying causes. I had to finally go to a new doctor and insist on antibiotics, it took three courses but the infection was gone.

This was so reminiscent of a car problem I had years ago, I was in a front end accident- purely cosmetic since I had the repairs done very far from home I was reluctant to return there for work on the car. A few months later I dropped an axle. Taking it to a local repair shop they replaced the axle and pointed to the front end accident as the cause, a few weeks later it happened again, took it to another shop and same thing, replaced and told it was the accident that caused it- they could not look past it, it was an easy excuse. The next week it dropped again, this time I called the original repair shop they were not surprised since they worked on it originally. Having it towed to their shop I asked what was actually happening. As it turned out they had to remove the left wheel and axle to do the fender work and in putting it back on they miscalculated the "slack" they fixed it and it held for another three years until it was sold.

Now through all this my eyes had held up well, my right eye was always the poorer of the two since every eye exam I had I was told the right eye had an astigmatism, since I was a kid I had noticed the right eye was dimmer than the left in that when i went into a darkened room the right eye saw slightly darker, I had never thought much of it. I was aware that with each operation my focus took longer to return to "normal" I would attribute that to anesthesia and medications I was on. As in the past there were better days where I could watch TV with no glasses and as in the past only on very few bad days I would resort to my distant glasses for comfortable television watching- very few days.

About eight months after my leg bypass I was not even aware anything was done other than lack of pain, it was that recovered. It was winter time and I got another upper respiratory infection, it started as a cough and became an infection much like phenomena. This time the new doctor had no reservations to treating it as such. Now the one disturbing thing about it, something I was accustomed to, was long profound coughing fits, standing in the kitchen in the middle of a particularly long fit I felt a pain in my left side sharp and pronounced as if I was stabbed. I had to call for an ambulance I was in that much pain. The lower rib was fractured, the only thing the doctors questioned was how ... because of taking a combination of Plavix and aspirin I bruise easily and by holding my side I did bruise. This brings me to what I would call the "House MD" syndrome- I really don't think doctors and nurses should be allowed to watch a program where the basis is "everyone lies" it's so counter productive if a doctor or nurse suspects this, what is to be achieved by confronting a patient. There was a time I'd call the "Doctor Ben Casey, Dr. Kildare,. Marcus Welby" times when the patient was the best source of what ailed them, oh well. I know that Wikipedia is a poor source sometimes for information but: Causes- "Rib fractures can occur without direct trauma and have been reported after sustained coughing. Mayo Clinic: "Bone scan. This technique is good for viewing stress fractures, where a bone is cracked after repetitive trauma — such as long bouts of coughing". ". Like I said "oh well".

This sets the stage for why I'm posting this. Just after recovering from the rib, I'd say it was still sore and I'd hold my side when I coughed, not much pain but more a reflex, I had another coughing fit it was more like the last of the infection as it was getting better and better and at the tail end of the antibiotics. As i coughed my right eye was experiencing pain- in the back of the eye, since headaches were some of the side effects of medication the pain didn't surprise me more than it was something to note. The very next morning I woke up and noticed something was wrong. It took me a short time but I narrowed it down to double vision in my right eye. It's often refereed to as monocular double vision, more precisely "monocular diplopia". This started a journey of almost eight months, in a few days it will be.

Now the first place I went after getting an appointment with "Dr W", was the internet, both a "yay" and an "oh no". A mix of two things here- the appointment was two weeks away even though I read in almost all cases time was important and I conveyed that to the receptionist without any reaction- to the point I actually wondered if she heard me. The internet, although to some degree comforting was also a sea of drastic contradictions. Given my stoke history evaluating the different opinions was tedious at best, I began to read the same stories over and over, bookmarked quite a few sites to revisit continually. In my reading I would print out various things to act as a "cheat sheet". Constantly weighing the quality of the information and source, the Mayo clinic and a few others ranked high, forums like this one needed more than a grain of salt. I did my best to filter out my desires for what might be happening against what I felt was specific information. One of the most disturbing things I read in many places even well thought of journals "imaginary monocular diplopia" soon I found out the reason for this and that too is disturbing, one of the nasty side effects of laser surgery is "monocular diplopia" in other words to protect themselves from tons of lawsuits "monocular diplopia" is first told to the patient as having happened because they have dry eye syndrome failing the patients buying that it them becomes something that is not "real" made up from a perception that is incorrect ... the patients fault after all. We had a similar thing going on in the dental field to our shame, a cracked porcelain crown or bridge was always the patient's fault no matter what- "what did you do?" was the question from the doctors "did you drink particularly hot coffee or tea?". The truth of the matter is that a person could drink boiling water for five minutes straight and only if they then plunged their mouths in ice water could anything negative happen.

Doctor "W" treated my father through some long and complex issues, as a diabetic he was prone to diabetic retinopathy and macular degeneration. Having lived with this my father and I would always test our blood, I would get every free meter I could and test until the free test strips were gone and the batteries died. I have gone almost yearly for a fasting blood test and lately for an A1C test. The A1C test gives you the last few months of blood sugar levels, thankfully I have yet to fail one.

I had the two weeks to prepare for Dr "W", since I've been on a dizzying array of medications I have put them on a spreadsheet, and carry a laminated card with all of them to hand to doctors in new hospitals, very handy, I also have charted my medical history, both I brought with me. Along with some information on monocular diplopia. I felt comfortable that he would understand and work with my history, in an odd way he did. He gave me every test I thought there was, took images too, it was if nothing very complete. Then we sat down for the "findings" I had an astigmatism in my right eye, this from years of eye tests I was sure of- though I did ask if it had gotten worse (I had also brought my last eye test) "no not really" hmm "could this change be brought on by a coughing fit?" "no not really". He then went on to say "if this were really monocular diplopia we would have a paper to write. There we go with a thinly veiled "it's your imagination". I never felt so let down and disappointed before not at this level not from a professional I trusted. Now what I was seeing was classic according to everything I had seen and read on the internet, the shown effects were not in dispute the cause was. I'll try to include images here, oops just got a message that "You are only allowed to post URLs to other sites after you have made 15 posts or more.". He continued on showing me images, now he did admit curiously nothing looked wrong with the optical plate said it might be "soft" he also made note of blood vessels that were not as perfuse and the other eye, when asked if that accounted for slightly dimmer vision in that eye he said "yes" to which I pointed out that it was an existing condition I had grown up with. There was some evidence of my circulatory issues in the form of one abnormal blood vessel. I was certain it was a lens issue, he was insisting it was an interior eye issue. Since he said neither one of us could be sure he referred me to two contact lens specialists, Dr "R" and Dr Jodie.

My appointment with Dr "R" I supplied the same medical history and list of medications. I went through the same tests as with Dr "W" and then some. He was rather quiet through the whole exam. Basically when it came time for his evaluation curiously it was almost word for word as the one I got from Dr "W" though without any protesting from me, he did lean heavy on the "perception" excuse this made me quite certain something was wrong and not with my vision, later I would have sweet vindication. I immediately suspected this doctor, I have never requested my medical records relying mostly on my memory of a doctors visit and what medications are prescribed for what. But this time as soon as I got home I wrote a letter insisting on copies. While I was waiting I made an appointment with Dr "Jodie".

Dr "Jodie" ... ok this might be an evaluation shaded by the results but I really hope not. Nice office as most are but nice enough that I actually commented on it. He impressed me as an energetic not so young but appearing so Doctor. As before I came with all the medical information and now with two more doctors on my contact information. He listened to my issues carefully then proceeded to run all the tests I had become familial with. Then he said there is something he needs to try, one more room. I sat down and he asked if he could numb my eye, "of course" he may not have asked as much as told me anyway I was eager for anything that wasn't what I've had before. He then put a contact in ... and then held a lens up in front of it "how's this?" oh god it was perfect!! for the first time in seven months (eight until I got my lenses fitted) I could see clearly! without any hint of double vision! The weight that was on me lifted, I felt like crying I might have because of the way he patted me on the back and said "it's alright". I asked him about how I thought it happened he had a novel thought about it that I could live with since the end results are fantastic "some people live with the issue for a long time and for some reason they wake up one morning and it's like it just happened" It gets better *insert smiley face here*.

Oh god Dr "R's" copy of my records came in. Along with it was his evaluation to doctor "W". I forget the exact words but it was something like this "I have evaluated WD and have found the problem to not be optics but inside the eye medical conditions. Further more I have counseled Mr WD on the importance of his diabetic control and the importance of watching his blood sugar. Never had he uttered one word of that! and I was not only sure I wasn't diabetic I was incensed! I went immediately for another A1C test and a fasting blood test. The results "not diabetic". After two years of medical problems and the hundreds- hundreds of tests besides my constant testing blood sugar did any doctor even hint I was.

On to Doctor "K" none of the doctors before this would do a contact lens fitting, I had asked Dr "Jodie" what was next, he said go back to Dr "W" and see who he recommends for contacts. By this time I was exhausted it had been seven months and counting that I could not see clearly. I tried as much as I could to ignore it between doctor appointments, tune out the right eye. I could for the most part but after a couple of hours the computer or reading or watching TV I would have to close my right eye, this would bring on terrible eye strain on my left eye, this I admit may have been psychological. Dr "K"! poor man, I came to him with my medical records and list of medications, my records now included three eye specialists, and my verbal story.

He fitted me with GP lenses gas permeable, and suggested I might not be able to tolerate them, I couldn't. Then he fitted me with Toric lenses- almost perfect!, well to me they were perfect, I would need my glasses for reading and mid range but my distance sight was spot on. Then something really really odd started to happen. While I'm waiting the two weeks for a follow up, oh I only got the right eye toric the left lens tore in trying it on but was excellent for the amount of time I did have it on, I was waiting for a replacement. Three days into wearing it something felt very odd I would go in and out of focus more and more, I assumed it was the lens settling down at first it took a few blinks and then it would sharpen up. By the forth day it took so long I would blink a few times then have to ignore it and eventually it would sharpen up. The way I was testing it was that logo on most TV stations on the lower right bottom would be sharp as hell, so would the fine print on car ads (I know the quality of the ads goes up and down depending if it's in HD or not, trust me I know the difference). I had in the days with the GP lenses noticed after taking them off my eyesight was sharp for a while, nothing amazing I had read as much. That it was happening for longer and longer periods of time also to be expected. Now I had read about cornea reshaping and asked the doctor what he thought, he didn't think much of it and I felt comfortable with where I was at.

The fifth day I left my contacts out (contact, the toric I was still waiting on the left) By mid morning there was something up with my mid range glasses (computer use) my right eye was a complete blur. I had a very short "oh shit" moment, then i noticed it was a blur but not double! I looked over at the TV above the glasses- covering the left eye. The image was sharp! ok ok I was floored I could not believe it, all day I kept looking waiting for it to fade. I did remember one thing about cornea reshaping a girl who said she sleeps with contacts in and it lasts for about three days until she needs to sleep with them in again, I didn't accept it as being real. By the next day I woke to it still holding, I kept looking back and forth to see it I couldn't believe my eyes really couldn't. My appointment was a week off to get a new glasses RX. I had to do something, find out what was going on, we have a small chain of eye glass places here called "Wise Eyes" the kind of place you can walk into and get an eye exam and a pair of glasses quickly. They had given me an exam in 2009 three years ago. I had to know. Going there I told the examiner "something has changed, I need it documented from my last prescription". I said it enough he responded "I know I heard you" the results- "your left eye has gotten slightly worse your right eye is 20/20 and no astigmatism- mazel tov!" are you kidding me I asked, "not at all you want to tell me what you did?"

More tomorrow, I've been at this all day- I want to see if the two images I posted will work, I found out posting a url isn't possible until after my 15th post. Woot they did! The two images are how I was seeing.
Wow. Did anyone read all of that? I must confess that I didn't make it.

What is it you want to know, Will? Can you sum it up in 100 words or less?
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Wow. Did anyone read all of that? I must confess that I didn't make it.

What is it you want to know, Will? Can you sum it up in 100 words or less?
Yep- I had astigmatism now I don't. I kept it as simple as I could for you. Actually if you even read a bit it would be apparent I had no question. They say true monocular diplopia is quite rare, actually it's a complication of many laser surgeries that are passed off as the patient having "dry eyes".

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I looked over at the TV above the glasses- covering the left eye. The image was sharp! ok ok I was floored I could not believe it, all day I kept looking waiting for it to fade. I did remember one thing about cornea reshaping a girl who said she sleeps with contacts in and it lasts for about three days until she needs to sleep with them in again, I didn't accept it as being real. By the next day I woke to it still holding, I kept looking back and forth to see it I couldn't believe my eyes really couldn't. My appointment was a week off to get a new glasses RX. I had to do something, find out what was going on, we have a small chain of eye glass places here called "Wise Eyes" the kind of place you can walk into and get an eye exam and a pair of glasses quickly. They had given me an exam in 2009 three years ago. I had to know. Going there I told the examiner "something has changed, I need it documented from my last prescription". I said it enough he responded "I know I heard you" the results- "your left eye has gotten slightly worse your right eye is 20/20 and no astigmatism- mazel tov!" are you kidding me I asked, "not at all you want to tell me what you did?"

More tomorrow.
Wow, that's quite a medical history you have there. It sounds like this story has a happy ending so far. I guess we'll tune in tomorrow for the rest of it.
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Wow, that's quite a medical history you have there. It sounds like this story has a happy ending so far. I guess we'll tune in tomorrow for the rest of it.
Yeah it was quite a journey, I've added scanned images of my recent eye exam and the one I had three years ago and a time frame summary to the end of that first post. I've looked all over the internet for days and never heard or read anything like it. Doctor "W" the first one I went to said if it were "true" monocular diplopia we would have a paper to write, I'm wondering how he would feel about astigmatism being "cured", or resolving itself- god 20/20 it sounds insane. I'm going to wait until this Thursday when I get it confirmed by my contact lens doctor, Dr "K", then I'm going on Dr "W's" dime to see him, heh I think I could actually co write the paper.
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Well, I only have an astigmatism in my right eye, but I used to wear -1.25 lenses and now I wear -0.75. So yeah, I guess it's getting better.
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Yeah it was quite a journey, I've added scanned images of my recent eye exam and the one I had three years ago and a time frame summary to the end of that first post. I've looked all over the internet for days and never heard or read anything like it. Doctor "W" the first one I went to said if it were "true" monocular diplopia we would have a paper to write, I'm wondering how he would feel about astigmatism being "cured", or resolving itself- god 20/20 it sounds insane. I'm going to wait until this Thursday when I get it confirmed by my contact lens doctor, Dr "K", then I'm going on Dr "W's" dime to see him, heh I think I could actually co write the paper.
Good news, Will. Thanks for sharing your notes, that's unique.
If you get that paper published on line I'm sure we'd like to see a link to it here in Lens 101.
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Well, I only have an astigmatism in my right eye, but I used to wear -1.25 lenses and now I wear -0.75. So yeah, I guess it's getting better.
Congrats! What amazes me is the doctors across the board not trusting what a patient tells them but basically accusing them of manufacturing cause and effect, like Dr "W" saying there is no noticeable issue with the optical plate yet because I had an issue he would not attribute to a lens problem saying then the "plate must be soft" I mean he went to the length of making something up he could not see so he could ignore what was right in front of him.
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Good news, Will. Thanks for sharing your notes, that's unique.
If you get that paper published on line I'm sure we'd like to see a link to it here in Lens 101.
You're so very welcome, I'm extremely grateful to have a place to gather it all together.
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You're so very welcome, I'm extremely grateful to have a place to gather it all together.
Good to have you here, Will. Do you feel confident to look around this site and see how many other questions you can answer?
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Good to have you here, Will. Do you feel confident to look around this site and see how many other questions you can answer?
Wish I could, I've only had three days in GP toric lenses and four days in soft toric. I am very curious now though about cornea reshaping where before it sounded like so much wishful thinking.
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Congrats! What amazes me is the doctors across the board not trusting what a patient tells them but basically accusing them of manufacturing cause and effect, like Dr "W" saying there is no noticeable issue with the optical plate yet because I had an issue he would not attribute to a lens problem saying then the "plate must be soft" I mean he went to the length of making something up he could not see so he could ignore what was right in front of him.
Sorry. What's an "optical plate"?
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Sorry. What's an "optical plate"?
I should have said "disk" as it's more commonly know (but it was the term the doctor used, I thought it odd also but in my reading I found what he was talking about). See Image below.

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disk [disk]
a circular or rounded flat plate; often spelled disc in names of anatomic structures.

Further reference can be found in a PDF file P5.1.1.2
ld-didactic.de/literatur/hb/e/p5/p5112_e.pdf

An excellent discussion of the plate(s) can be found here:
Müller cells are living optical fibers in the vertebrate retina
"The purpose of these so-called fiber optic plates (FOPs) is the image ... "
vision-research.eu/index.php?id=160

See second image below:
Text-book of comparative anatomy, Volume 2 By Arnold Lang

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Proceedings of the Linnean Society of London, Volumes 118-122
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I should have said "disk" as it's more commonly know. See Image below
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Oh, so the optic disk is a part of the retina in the eye. I get it. Thanks for asking, Lee.
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I had my appointment with Dr "K" today- he was totally stumped- now the strange bits, he first said something inside my eye may have changed, man when these guys sing a song they can't let it go ... when asked "if it were something inside my eye then why did the contacts work at all?" actually got an "oops" out of him. Hopefully I'll have things to scan in tomorrow.

Dr "K" wants to see me in a month for a follow up, he didn't charge me today.

I was over at target later on picking up meds and saw they had an eye glass place. Since I wasn't charged for Dr "K's" exam I figured why not.

This is now the second quickie shop to find no astigmatism in my right eye, she though needed to find something in that eye, I handed her the glasses I had just made maybe a bit more then a week ago with no RX in the right eye "OD" none, since they were my computer range I did mention there was a magnifying lens but nothing else ... I mean it was made to a zero RX for that eye, anyway she had to tinker, she said ahh no there is something there, hmm I was so tempted to whip out the RX I had from 7/23/2011. Basically she gave me an RX for .25 OD to me that's insignificant. Still standing with my vision going from 20/30 and astigmatism to what in realty is 20/20 and no astigmatism.

Ok while not pressed for the 20/20 number from Dr "K" he did say I still have an astigmatism, saying it is there but it changed hmm to me that's more like a face savings claim rather then a diagnosis when two out of three doctors find no astigmatism and basically find 20/20 vision. And the "astigmatism" is not causing any blurry image no detraction from being able to see the tiniest line on an eye chart, does it exist?

I will be going back to Dr "W" as soon as I can make an appointment- tie breaker if you will, figuring two quickie eye exams equal the one eye exam by a specialist.

The journey continues-

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I had my appointment with Dr "K" today- he was totally stumped- now the strange bits, he first said something inside my eye may have changed, man when these guys sing a song they can't let it go ... when asked "if it were something inside my eye then why did the contacts work at all?" actually got an "oops" out of him. Hopefully I'll have things to scan in tomorrow.

Dr "K" wants to see me in a month for a follow up, he didn't charge me today.

I was over at target later on picking up meds and saw they had an eye glass place. Since I wasn't charged for Dr "K's" exam I figured why not.

This is now the second quickie shop to find no astigmatism in my right eye, she though needed to find something in that eye, I handed her the glasses I had just made maybe a bit more then a week ago with no RX in the right eye "OD" none, since they were my computer range I did mention there was a magnifying lens but nothing else ... I mean it was made to a zero RX for that eye, anyway she had to tinker, she said ahh no there is something there, hmm I was so tempted to whip out the RX I had from 7/23/2011. Basically she gave me an RX for .25 OD to me that's insignificant. Still standing with my vision going from 20/30 and astigmatism to what in realty is 20/20 and no astigmatism.

Ok while not pressed for the 20/20 number from Dr "K" he did say I still have an astigmatism, saying it is there but it changed hmm to me that's more like a face savings claim rather then a diagnosis when two out of three doctors find no astigmatism and basically find 20/20 vision. And the "astigmatism" is not causing any blurry image no detraction from being able to see the tiniest line on an eye chart, does it exist?

I will be going back to Dr "W" as soon as I can make an appointment- tie breaker if you will, figuring two quickie eye exams equal the one eye exam by a specialist.

The journey continues-
Keep us posted, Will.
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Keep us posted, Will.
Just got back from Dr. W!

My cornea did reshape! it’s now almost a perfect oval where before it was oblong. The girl doing the initial eye exam said my right eye is 20/20 and she could find no astigmatism! woot! Tie breaker! The good doctor did find that instead of a “perfect oval” it was .1 off ... potato potato. He is thinking of writing it up as long as my vision holds *insert huge smiley face here*. He’s going to confer with Dr. L the doctor that did find contacts resolved my monocular double vision- he did make one attempt to say maybe my blood sugar ... and stopped himself, one no diabetes and more important blood sugar would have no effect on the shape of the cornea, to which I mentioned Dr. K tried to say something similar until I mentioned what internal to the eye is corrected with contacts and he said “oops”, actually Dr. W came to the same conclusion as he was saying it .... man what a trip! This time he was more open to the coughing explanation and my theory that the cornea was dented to begin with and the coughing dented it more, the contacts acted like a body shop pulling out a dent in a car.

Anyway! he is going to call Dr. L (the doctor who found the monocular double vision could be treated with contacts) and Dr. K who fitted me with the contacts and we may very well do a paper. I’d suggest naming it “Don’t Judge a Book by it’s Medical History” or “More Than Meets The Eye”.
A fun time was had by all!

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Just got back from Dr. W!

My cornea did reshape! it’s now almost a perfect oval where before it was oblong. The girl doing the initial eye exam said my right eye is 20/20 and she could find no astigmatism! woot! Tie breaker! The good doctor did find that instead of a “perfect oval” it was .1 off ... potato potato. He is thinking of writing it up as long as my vision holds *insert huge smiley face here*. He’s going to confer with Dr. L the doctor that did find contacts resolved my monocular double vision- he did make one attempt to say maybe my blood sugar ... and stopped himself, one no diabetes and more important blood sugar would have no effect on the shape of the cornea, to which I mentioned Dr. K tried to say something similar until I mentioned what internal to the eye is corrected with contacts and he said “oops”, actually Dr. W cane to the same conclusion as he was saying it .... man what a trip! This time he was more open to the coughing explanation and my theory that the cornea was dented to begin with and the coughing dented it more, the contacts acted like a body shop pulling out a dent in a car.

Anyway! he is going to call Dr. L (the doctor who found the monocular double vision could be treated with contacts) and Dr. K who fitted me with the contacts and we may very well do a paper. I’d suggest naming it “Don’t Judge a Book by it’s Medical History” or “More Than Meets The Eye”.
A fun time was had by all!
That sounds terrific, Will. Thanks for sharing. I like your "dent pulling" analogy. It gives me the opportunity to attach this picture:
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Haha fantastic!
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Hey kids. Just a heads up. Don't send "Will" any private messages. He might get mad at you for being stupid and send you a profanity-laced reply.

You know, cause . . . "you had no reason to quote the whole thing- sh*t for brains."

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Hey kids. Just a heads up. Don't send "Will" any private messages. He might get mad at you for being stupid and send you a profanity-laced reply.

You know, cause . . . "you had no reason to quote the whole thing- sh*t for brains."

Sheesh.
You forgot to mention I also said "all you had to do was read the first sentence to figure out I was asking no questions ... but you were too hell bent on being a wise ass.
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You forgot to mention I also said "all you had to do was read the first sentence to figure out I was asking no questions ...
At least you replied publicly this time. I'll give you credit for that.
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At least you replied publicly this time. I'll give you credit for that.
Credit? I don't need your credit, what I do need is for you to clean up your mess and an apology would be in order, if for nothing else being a wise ass- not reading even the first sentence and then spitefully quoting my whole post as if it was a joke, the only one who looks like a joke is you and if you have as you said 450 posts here I can only conclude that every forum needs a town idiot and you are ours.
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Credit? I don't need your credit, what I do need is for you to clean up your mess and an apology would be in order, if for nothing else being a wise ass- not reading even the first sentence and then spitefully quoting my whole post as if it was a joke, the only one who looks like a joke is you and if you have as you said 450 posts here I can only conclude that every forum needs a town idiot and you are ours.
All right. I apologize for making fun of your very long post, but I will not accept the title of "town idiot." You make it sound like of all the people who have posted here, I'm the dumbest, and I'm not.

You had some important things to say in your post, but it got lost in all the text. Remember, this forum is being read by people that don't even spell out entire words when texting. (Some even write their posts that way here.) When you post something that's just over 3,500 words long, it's probably not going to be read by people who send out 140 character "tweets."

What you said in your post was important and I hope it was helpful, but I'm afraid people will see all that and decide to just skip over it and miss what you have to say. I think you could have gotten your point across more effectively if you would have made it shorter; and I should have read it all the way through before commenting on it.
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Just got back from Dr. W!

My cornea did reshape! it’s now almost a perfect oval where before it was oblong. The girl doing the initial eye exam said my right eye is 20/20 and she could find no astigmatism! woot! Tie breaker! The good doctor did find that instead of a “perfect oval” it was .1 off ... potato potato. He is thinking of writing it up as long as my vision holds *insert huge smiley face here*. He’s going to confer with Dr. L the doctor that did find contacts resolved my monocular double vision- he did make one attempt to say maybe my blood sugar ... and stopped himself, one no diabetes and more important blood sugar would have no effect on the shape of the cornea, to which I mentioned Dr. K tried to say something similar until I mentioned what internal to the eye is corrected with contacts and he said “oops”, actually Dr. W came to the same conclusion as he was saying it .... man what a trip! This time he was more open to the coughing explanation and my theory that the cornea was dented to begin with and the coughing dented it more, the contacts acted like a body shop pulling out a dent in a car.

Anyway! he is going to call Dr. L (the doctor who found the monocular double vision could be treated with contacts) and Dr. K who fitted me with the contacts and we may very well do a paper. I’d suggest naming it “Don’t Judge a Book by it’s Medical History” or “More Than Meets The Eye”.
A fun time was had by all!
Wow, that's an amazing story, Will. So how are you doing now? What's the latest?
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All right. I apologize for making fun of your very long post, but I will not accept the title of "town idiot." You make it sound like of all the people who have posted here, I'm the dumbest, and I'm not.

You had some important things to say in your post, but it got lost in all the text. Remember, this forum is being read by people that don't even spell out entire words when texting. (Some even write their posts that way here.) When you post something that's just over 3,500 words long, it's probably not going to be read by people who send out 140 character "tweets."

What you said in your post was important and I hope it was helpful, but I'm afraid people will see all that and decide to just skip over it and miss what you have to say. I think you could have gotten your point across more effectively if you would have made it shorter; and I should have read it all the way through before commenting on it.
Ragnarox,

Yes, it was a very long posting, but it was worth the time it took to read. Will had gone through quite an ordeal there. I can see why he may have felt like you were just "brushing him off." I'm glad you publicly apologized, though.
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All right. I apologize for making fun of your very long post, but I will not accept the title of "town idiot." You make it sound like of all the people who have posted here, I'm the dumbest, and I'm not.
I was out of line, and for that I apologize.
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I was out of line, and for that I apologize.
Fantastic. It's nice to see that we've got some wise, mature people on this thread.
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Wow, that's an amazing story, Will. So how are you doing now? What's the latest?
It's 10/13/2011,
I have an appointment with Dr "W" 11/08/11. So far my right eye vision is staying stable- dispute going to Chicago next to someone who was sick making me think to myself "great SARS just what I was missing". Didn't get SARS but did get a deep chest cold along with pain behind my right eye when I cough. Happily nothing has changed yet with my vision and expect the November 8th appointment to go well.
Thanks very much for asking.
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Old 10-14-2011, 08:51 AM
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It's 10/13/2011,
I have an appointment with Dr "W" 11/08/11. So far my right eye vision is staying stable- dispute going to Chicago next to someone who was sick making me think to myself "great SARS just what I was missing". Didn't get SARS but did get a deep chest cold along with pain behind my right eye when I cough. Happily nothing has changed yet with my vision and expect the November 8th appointment to go well.
Thanks very much for asking.
I hope you feel better Will, and I hope the appointment goes well, too.
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It's 10/13/2011,
I have an appointment with Dr "W" 11/08/11. So far my right eye vision is staying stable- dispute going to Chicago next to someone who was sick making me think to myself "great SARS just what I was missing". Didn't get SARS but did get a deep chest cold along with pain behind my right eye when I cough. Happily nothing has changed yet with my vision and expect the November 8th appointment to go well.
Thanks very much for asking.
How's that chest cold, Will? Still hurt when you cough?
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It's 10/13/2011,
I have an appointment with Dr "W" 11/08/11. So far my right eye vision is staying stable- dispute going to Chicago next to someone who was sick making me think to myself "great SARS just what I was missing". Didn't get SARS but did get a deep chest cold along with pain behind my right eye when I cough. Happily nothing has changed yet with my vision and expect the November 8th appointment to go well.
Thanks very much for asking.
Wow, it's too bad you couldn't get in to see the doctor sooner. I hope that chest cold is getting better.
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How's that chest cold, Will? Still hurt when you cough?
Thanks for asking, oddly I had two courses of antibiotics and even tho it went from being very deep to shallow cough after the second course ... I figured it was on it's way out and put off getting a third round of antibiotics. Big mistake, the cough though shallow became persistent. Now my PCP had prescribed cough medicine and something for the pain (butalbital-acetaminophen-caff) behind my right eye, well I ran out of cough medication which I didn't mind too much because it had codeine in it, one of the few things that doesn't effect my high blood pressure ... but the withdrawal effects from the codeine are usually disturbing, in my case they are usually irritability and bad vivid dreams. Both my PCP and the doctor who covers him when he's out were both out! so I have to brave it out until Monday. I'm finding the butalbital-acetaminophen-caff and aspirins mute the pain, I'm a little hesitant to take the aspirins along with Plavix (too many blood thinners at the same time).
The good news is that my right eye astigmatism has not returned dispute weeks of coughing!
A couple of notes, Monday I'll be getting my third round of antibiotics-November 18th I'll be headed back to Chicago and will be one of those people with a face mask.

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Thanks for asking, oddly I had two courses of antibiotics and the tho it went from being very deep to shallow cough after the second course ... I figured it was on it's way out and put off getting a third round of antibiotics. Big mistake, the cough though shallow became persistent. Now my PCP had prescribed cough medicine and something for the pain (butalbital-acetaminophen-caff) behind my right eye, well I ran out of cough medication which I didn't mind too much because it had codeine in it, one of the few things that doesn't effect my high blood pressure ... but the withdrawal effects from the codeine are usually disturbing, in my case they are usually irritability and bad vivid dreams. Both my PCP and the doctor who covers him when he's out were both out! so I have to brave it out until Monday. I'm finding the butalbital-acetaminophen-caff and aspirins mute the pain, I'm a little hesitant to take the aspirins along with Plavix (too many blood thinners at the same time).
The good news is that my right eye astigmatism has not returned dispute weeks of coughing!
A couple of notes, Monday I'll be getting my third round of antibiotics-November 18th I'll be headed back to Chicago and will be one of those people with a face mask.
Wow, you've been having a rough time of it, haven't you. Let's hope you'll be off the codeine soon. I hate having bad dreams. It's like your own imagination is turning on you. Here's hoping for relief from your cough and some peaceful sleep.
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Hello all!

Just thought I'd share my own little story. I have needed corrective lenses since I was 8 or 9 years old, for nearsightedness and astigmatism. When I was a teenager my vision took a nose dive (ah, hormones!) and I was left with a fairly powerful prescription. (I don't know numbers, I'd have to look through my prescription history.) I have worn Acuvue Advanced for Astigmatism contact lenses since I was 14 or 15 and never had any issues with them.

Just yesterday I went to see my eye doctor to renew my prescription. He did the basic exam and - to his surprise as much as mine - the astigmatism has disappeared from my right eye! My actual prescription has not changed much at all, but we tried a non-torque lens in my right eye and it's working fine! I'm testing it this week to make sure there's no issues. The degree of astigmatism in my left eye had changed too, but is still there, and I will continue using astigmatism lenses for that eye.

I'm shocked! I had no idea that astigmatism could go away. Our theory was that, since I graduated college 6 months ago, I am reading less and looking at whiteboards etc less and the muscle tone of my eyes may have changed. Any idea whether that's credible?

Merry Christmas to me, you, and my right eye!
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Hello all!

Just thought I'd share my own little story. I have needed corrective lenses since I was 8 or 9 years old, for nearsightedness and astigmatism. When I was a teenager my vision took a nose dive (ah, hormones!) and I was left with a fairly powerful prescription. (I don't know numbers, I'd have to look through my prescription history.) I have worn Acuvue Advanced for Astigmatism contact lenses since I was 14 or 15 and never had any issues with them.

Just yesterday I went to see my eye doctor to renew my prescription. He did the basic exam and - to his surprise as much as mine - the astigmatism has disappeared from my right eye! My actual prescription has not changed much at all, but we tried a non-torque lens in my right eye and it's working fine! I'm testing it this week to make sure there's no issues. The degree of astigmatism in my left eye had changed too, but is still there, and I will continue using astigmatism lenses for that eye.

I'm shocked! I had no idea that astigmatism could go away. Our theory was that, since I graduated college 6 months ago, I am reading less and looking at whiteboards etc less and the muscle tone of my eyes may have changed. Any idea whether that's credible?

Merry Christmas to me, you, and my right eye!
Well, that's certainly good news, stodd14. Thanks for sharing. I can't explain your astigmatism disappearing, but I don't think it's because you're not looking at whiteboards any more. If that were the case, wouldn't you be "cured" on weekends?
I'm not denying that something wonderful has happened to you, but I don't think the whiteboard thing explains it. Maybe it's just a flat-out Christmas miracle, like you said.

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I'm shocked! I had no idea that astigmatism could go away. Our theory was that, since I graduated college 6 months ago, I am reading less and looking at whiteboards etc less and the muscle tone of my eyes may have changed. Any idea whether that's credible?

Merry Christmas to me, you, and my right eye!
Congrats it's really amazing! Could very well be how it happened. Just an update, my right eye has stayed stable since it became 20 20 way back.

Merry Christmas to all -also- have a great New Year!.
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Congrats it's really amazing! Could very well be how it happened. Just an update, my right eye has stayed stable since it became 20 20 way back.

Merry Christmas to all -also- have a great New Year!.
Thank you for the update and the well-wishes, too. Merry Christmas and a Happy 2012 to you.
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I had no idea that astigmatism could go away. Our theory was that, since I graduated college 6 months ago, I am reading less and looking at whiteboards etc less and the muscle tone of my eyes may have changed. Any idea whether that's credible?
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If I had a college professor that looked like her I'd make sure never to miss a class. I might even stay after class to ask a few questions.
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If I had a college professor that looked like her I'd make sure never to miss a class. I might even stay after class to ask a few questions.
Yeah, I'd take lessons from her, even though she appears to be teaching algebra. I've never been a fan of mathematics, with that smile and those cute glasses I might just give it another go.
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I like her "geek chic" glasses.
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Yeah, I'd take lessons from her, even though she appears to be teaching algebra. I've never been a fan of mathematics, with that smile and those cute glasses I might just give it another go.
Yeah, those glasses are really nice looking on that nice looking woman.
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Yeah, those glasses are really nice looking on that nice looking woman.
I always thought all girls look great in glasses .... Not disagreeing one bit with your observation just adding my twist to the conversation. It would be my choice of image to prove my point, given the opportunity.

Update: right eye is still 20/20 ... less than pensive "woot"
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Old 01-24-2012, 10:57 AM
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I always thought all girls look great in glasses .... Not disagreeing one bit with your observation just adding my twist to the conversation. It would be my choice of image to prove my point, given the opportunity.

Update: right eye is still 20/20 ... less than pensive "woot"
"Less than pensive 'woot'"?

Anyway, I agree that some girls look good in glasses, but the girl in the picture is one of those people who is so attractive anyway that she would probably look hot with a mustache.

You know what they say "guys don't make passes at girls who wear glasses," but girls don't seem to like guys who "make passes" anyway. Girls who wear glasses attract nice guys.

Some guys have a "thing" for girls who wear braces.
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Old 01-24-2012, 03:24 PM
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"Less than pensive 'woot'"?

Anyway, I agree that some girls look good in glasses, but the girl in the picture is one of those people who is so attractive anyway that she would probably look hot with a mustache.

You know what they say "guys don't make passes at girls who wear glasses," but girls don't seem to like guys who "make passes" anyway. Girls who wear glasses attract nice guys.

Some guys have a "thing" for girls who wear braces.
I like girls who wear braces . . . and contact lenses.
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Old 01-24-2012, 03:40 PM
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"Less than pensive 'woot'"?

Anyway, I agree that some girls look good in glasses, but the girl in the picture is one of those people who is so attractive anyway that she would probably look hot with a mustache.

You know what they say "guys don't make passes at girls who wear glasses," but girls don't seem to like guys who "make passes" anyway. Girls who wear glasses attract nice guys.

Some guys have a "thing" for girls who wear braces.
You have to understand only two words "pensive" and "woot".
I've never thought of that saying about girls and glasses anything more than shallow and quite sophomoric.
Obviously I'm not exactly "nice".
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You have to understand only two words "pensive" and "woot".
I've never thought of that saying about girls and glasses anything more than shallow and quite sophomoric.
Obviously I'm not exactly "nice".
Pensive: musingly or dreamily thoughtful

woot: "w00t" was originally a truncated expression common among players of Dungeons and Dragons tabletop role-playing game for "Wow, loot!" Thus the term passed into the net-culture where it thrived in video game communities and lost its original meaning and is used simply as a term of excitement.
"I defeated the dark sorcerer! Woot!"


So your signature was a dreamily thoughtful term of excitement. Got it.

I know what "sophomoric" is.
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Pensive: musingly or dreamily thoughtful

woot: "w00t" was originally a truncated expression common among players of Dungeons and Dragons tabletop role-playing game for "Wow, loot!" Thus the term passed into the net-culture where it thrived in video game communities and lost its original meaning and is used simply as a term of excitement.
"I defeated the dark sorcerer! Woot!"


So your signature was a dreamily thoughtful term of excitement. Got it.

I know what "sophomoric" is.
When looking for the definition of a word try to picture it in the context it was used, otherwise a definition out of context is almost as useless as no definition.

Pensive:
These adjectives mean characterized by or disposed to thought, especially serious or deep thought.
Woot:
exclamation
informal
(especially in electronic communication) used to express elation, enthusiasm, or triumph:
I definitely get Fridays off, woot!


Dungeons and Dragons? wouldn't that make it ancient? is there such a thing anymore?
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Old 01-24-2012, 06:08 PM
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Maybe I should have gone with "woo hoo" hard to tell who the audience is-

Worse than relying on wikipedia alone is using the "Urban Dictionary"
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Some guys have a "thing" for girls who wear braces.
Yeah...creepers!
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Yeah...creepers!
Let's not be hasty, Shamrocker. It depends on what kind of "thing" Horseluvr is talking about. I happen to like braces on girls too, but that doesn't mean I don't respect boundaries.
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Old 08-19-2013, 08:48 PM
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Hi all,
It's been a while! come October it will be two years since I bored you all to death with my problems.
If anyone had wondered, my eyesight is still free of monocular diplopia (double vision in one eye).
In a few weeks I should be going for an eye exam- way overdue but there haven't been any issues. Oh I had two congestive heart failures about 3 months apart oops coming up on three months. Anyway it wasn't fun but I find I'm less afraid of it then I was. Also got married (again).
I'm skipping around but it's been a long day and if I don't post now I may not get a chance or remember for another year.
So I'm bracing myself for the eye exam, why? because to get the RX for glasses out of them is like pulling teeth- and they always "forget" to give the PD number (pupillary distance) not only that but I've gotten nonsense numbers that have no relationship to the ones before.
Here is that bouncing around again- the heart attacks didn't do much damage to my heart which is great, heh, long story *smiles*.

So that's my update, lets see- eyes are doing good, got married, heart ... think that's all oh wait, I'm moving to Iowa! I know New York to Iowa- it's where the field of dreams was built. "is this heaven? ... no it's Iowa".
Star Trek- "Don't tell me: you're from outer-space! ... No, I'm from Iowa. I only work in outer space"

Everyone have a great Autumn, catch you all in spring!
Will
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